slothfacekilla Posted March 4 Posted March 4 35 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said: PS: Would Vancouver actually stoop this low...? Or would they take on this chance (their bet/ risk) that they could actually turn Ras into something? Stupid chance and ****ty risk... but who knows what Vancouver is actually thinking right now...? He's a local boy who doesn't love a good story 😂 Quote
sagnam Posted March 13 Posted March 13 Wonder if our organization’s goal is to win the AHL and we just never noticed. https://www.nhl.com/redwings/news/red-wings-acquire-michael-milne-and-wojciech-stachowiak-from-tampa-bay-lightning-in-exchange-for-ian-mitchell 1 Quote
slothfacekilla Posted March 13 Posted March 13 They're just trying to fill their AHL roster with all the call ups and injuries. They also signed a bunch of guys to tryout deals too. Quote
buddha Posted March 13 Posted March 13 This really has been the most depressing season in a long time. once again they were right there. once again injuries caught them at the wrong time. only this team they dealt their first round pick. you know what that means....welcome to st louis gavin mckenna! Quote
1984Echoes Posted April 3 Author Posted April 3 He's under contract for next season too... So... Incomplete. But definitely ASP needed to go down to GR. And the Wings needed Faulk to absorb 2nd pairing minutes because of that. Although I've read that he & Chiarot are NOT a match made in heaven... to me that means Chiarot needs to be pushed down to 3rd pair... except who's going to push him down...? ALJO? Nope. Back to Faulk... If they would only bring up Buium or Wallinder... I think he'd be the perfect mentor/ fit for a young LH'ed D'man just breaking into the NHL... I REALLY want to see a 2nd pair next year of Buium and Faulk... I'll let you know how I REALLY feel about the trade for Faulk by next year's trade deadline... I think he was a good add... although it did cost that 1st round pick... Just my 2 cents. Quote
Jason_R Posted Friday at 04:07 PM Posted Friday at 04:07 PM https://octopusthrower.com/don-t-worry-about-slumping-red-wings-sophomore-01knt0b5rte4 For Kasper panicans. Quote
buddha Posted Friday at 10:23 PM Posted Friday at 10:23 PM 6 hours ago, Jason_R said: https://octopusthrower.com/don-t-worry-about-slumping-red-wings-sophomore-01knt0b5rte4 For Kasper panicans. there's a lot of rationalizing and cherry picking in that article. Quote
Jason_R Posted Friday at 11:51 PM Posted Friday at 11:51 PM 1 hour ago, buddha said: there's a lot of rationalizing and cherry picking in that article. I don’t disagree. But season two does not necessarily define a career. Quote
Jason_R Posted Saturday at 08:38 PM Posted Saturday at 08:38 PM Since the Canadian teams don’t seem to like the American Olympic hockey players, what do we think about a trade for Brady Tkachuk? He has one more year on his contract for a little over $8 million. He would bring an abrasiveness to the team that we haven’t had in a long time not to mention being a top line scorer. Quote
buddha Posted Saturday at 08:50 PM Posted Saturday at 08:50 PM 11 minutes ago, Jason_R said: Since the Canadian teams don’t seem to like the American Olympic hockey players, what do we think about a trade for Brady Tkachuk? He has one more year on his contract for a little over $8 million. He would bring an abrasiveness to the team that we haven’t had in a long time not to mention being a top line scorer. sure. but they wont trade him to us and if he's on the market were likely to get outbid, just like we did for hughes. and we dont have a first round pick to trade this year. Quote
Hongbit Posted yesterday at 03:59 AM Posted yesterday at 03:59 AM 7 hours ago, buddha said: and we dont have a first round pick to trade this year. Watch this be the year the Wings card finally moves up. Quote
lordstanley Posted yesterday at 05:19 AM Posted yesterday at 05:19 AM 1 hour ago, Hongbit said: Watch this be the year the Wings card finally moves up. The Leafs traded their 2026 #1 last year at the deadline but it's top 5 protected. The Leafs finally fell into the NHL bottom 5 tonight. If the Leafs win the lottery and get to pick Gavin McKenna ... Quote
Jason_R Posted yesterday at 01:19 PM Posted yesterday at 01:19 PM 16 hours ago, buddha said: sure. but they wont trade him to us and if he's on the market were likely to get outbid, just like we did for hughes. and we dont have a first round pick to trade this year. I agree it is unlikely. But they traded DeBrincat to us. They traded Perron to us. Sure, different situations, but every situation is a different situation. If Ottawa doesn't think they can re-sign Tkachuk or doesn't want to re-sign him because he's American, he's exactly the kind of player Yzerman should be in on, especially if Yzerman does not intend to trade Larkin. Larkin needs someone to do the dirty work on the ice and in the locker room. Quote
buddha Posted yesterday at 01:27 PM Posted yesterday at 01:27 PM 6 minutes ago, Jason_R said: I agree it is unlikely. But they traded DeBrincat to us. They traded Perron to us. Sure, different situations, but every situation is a different situation. If Ottawa doesn't think they can re-sign Tkachuk or doesn't want to re-sign him because he's American, he's exactly the kind of player Yzerman should be in on, especially if Yzerman does not intend to trade Larkin. Larkin needs someone to do the dirty work on the ice and in the locker room. if tkachuk comes out and says "i will not sign an extension and will only sogn an extension with the detroit red wings" then we can probably trade for him. the red wings have a better chance of making the playoffs this season than that happening. Quote
lordstanley Posted yesterday at 05:15 PM Posted yesterday at 05:15 PM I'm very reluctant to re-post Jeff Moss of all people but, this one time, he makes a reasonable point. 1 Quote
Jason_R Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago 8 minutes ago, lordstanley said: I'm very reluctant to re-post Jeff Moss of all people but, this one time, he makes a reasonable point. Yes, something is wrong with the culture. I don’t know what it is but the front office seems to function too much as a museum of the Red Wings dynasty. Ironically, short of a complete obliteration of the front office, Stevie is the only one who has a hope of managing this dynamic. I feel like he needs to bring in a hockey lifer from outside the franchise who can do the dirty work of holding some of the former Wings accountable. I wonder what Keith Tkachuk is up to these days. 😂 Quote
gehringer_2 Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago It's just not that complicated. In a capped league there are only so many avenues to get better - lopsided trades, drafts, and better development. Unless your FO can outperform other FOs at those tasks, you will never put a better team in the ice than your competition. So to say that this FO "did as well as.." is useless. They have to do *better* than the other guy, otherwise you just stay where you are. So not many second rounders make it? That's a loser's take, if you are going to win *you* need to be the guy that finds the 2nd rounders that do. That may sound harsh but that's the reality of pro sports, it's not a forgiving business. SY often bemoans the fact that it's hard to better - so the 1st step is finding people who can do what's hard. What sports organization goes 10+yrs under performing its competition without any personnel changes being made? We are basically waiting for the blind squirrel to stumble into a nut somewhere with this org (OK they did once with Moritz so they've already burned one allotment of luck). If they want a different result, it's time to have different people driving the result, or maybe turn it over the ClaudeGPT. 3 Quote
Hongbit Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago This is a great way to ensure you don’t have a 10 year rebuild. Must be nice. I do have to give Chicago credit for not trading their lottery pick for a 34 year old defenseman. Quote
lordstanley Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 28 minutes ago, Hongbit said: This is a great way to ensure you don’t have a 10 year rebuild. The Hawks have missed the playoffs the last six years and eight of the last nine and are still next to last in the NHL this year. So they’d already in a 10-year rebuild. 1 Quote
Jason_R Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago This guy’s write up is worth a read. I said in another post that the front office looks like a DRW dynasty museum. This guy said something that serves as a counterpoint. He mentioned when a young player asked about Vladdy, “Who’s in the wheelchair?” This guy‘s point is that the young players don’t seem to have any understanding of the culture that made the Red Wings dynasty what it was. They might see some of these guys around the building but not understand the competitiveness that made them great. I don’t know what that means, but who is Draper competing against to keep his job as an executive the way he was competing to anchor the Grind Line? The front office seems like the place Wings greats have gone to take a victory lap. 1 Quote
gehringer_2 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 11 minutes ago, Jason_R said: This guy’s write up is worth a read. I said in another post that the front office looks like a DRW dynasty museum. This guy said something that serves as a counterpoint. He mentioned when a young player asked about Vladdy, “Who’s in the wheelchair?” This guy‘s point is that the young players don’t seem to have any understanding of the culture that made the Red Wings dynasty what it was. They might see some of these guys around the building but not understand the competitiveness that made them great. I don’t know what that means, but who is Draper competing against to keep his job as an executive the way he was competing to anchor the Grind Line? The front office seems like the place Wings greats have gone to take a victory lap. The Wings front office is the sales room in GlenGary GlennRoss. The question is who is going to give them the Alec Baldwin speech. 1 Quote
1984Echoes Posted 1 hour ago Author Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 40 minutes ago, Jason_R said: ... The front office seems like the place Wings greats have gone to take a ... nap. Edited 1 hour ago by 1984Echoes Quote
slothfacekilla Posted 5 minutes ago Posted 5 minutes ago God internet Wings fans would lose their minds if they were on the Blackhawks trajectory, I can't even imagine Quote
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