AlaskanTigersFan Posted July 17 Posted July 17 21 minutes ago, 4hzglory said: According to his Instagram, Adams has signed 😀 Quote
1984Echoes Posted July 17 Posted July 17 6 hours ago, 4hzglory said: According to his Instagram, Adams has signed 😀 Wha...?!?! Already?!?! Let's GO!!! Quote
Edman85 Posted July 17 Posted July 17 Jack Turner (10) is in the transaction logs as signed and already been put on the FCL Roster. 2 Quote
1984Echoes Posted July 17 Posted July 17 Am I seeing this correctly? I'm showing (per MLB.com): 9th rounder Kenneth Ward - slot value $204.5K signed for $22.5K? ~ Savings of $180K? 10th rounder Jack Turner - slot value $193.5K signed for $7.5K? ~ Savings of $185K? I mean... I know the savings are going towards signing Will Adams, which we've already done... but... OUCH!!! Those poor guys! Taken along with the ($220K?) savings on Flukey, and I can imagine something somewhat similar on a few of the other reported signings... Does that add up to a $1M bonus to Will Adams or are we getting up to $1.5M at this point. Rumor was he wanted $1.5 mill so... Harris is being tough on these kids and swinging one more high-end prospect our way...! Me likey! (But I still feel bad for all the other dudes, especially the later rounds who have smallish slots anyways prior to getting negotiated down to almost nothing...wowza!) PS: Is he going to make a push for one or two of Dunwoody/ Byers/ Zielinski now? Quote
1984Echoes Posted July 17 Posted July 17 PS: Link if anyone needs it: MLB Draft Tracker | MLB.com Quote
Tigermojo Posted July 17 Posted July 17 1 hour ago, 1984Echoes said: Am I seeing this correctly? I'm showing (per MLB.com): 9th rounder Kenneth Ward - slot value $204.5K signed for $22.5K? ~ Savings of $180K? 10th rounder Jack Turner - slot value $193.5K signed for $7.5K? ~ Savings of $185K? I mean... I know the savings are going towards signing Will Adams, which we've already done... but... OUCH!!! Those poor guys! Taken along with the ($220K?) savings on Flukey, and I can imagine something somewhat similar on a few of the other reported signings... Does that add up to a $1M bonus to Will Adams or are we getting up to $1.5M at this point. Rumor was he wanted $1.5 mill so... Harris is being tough on these kids and swinging one more high-end prospect our way...! Me likey! (But I still feel bad for all the other dudes, especially the later rounds who have smallish slots anyways prior to getting negotiated down to almost nothing...wowza!) PS: Is he going to make a push for one or two of Dunwoody/ Byers/ Zielinski now? I wonder if they put the decimal in the wrong spot? Quote
NorthWoods Posted July 17 Posted July 17 2 minutes ago, Tigermojo said: I wonder if they put the decimal in the wrong spot? If not those guys will remember it and follow Mize's example of leaving as FA's over it. Quote
LongLiveMaroth Posted July 17 Posted July 17 1 hour ago, 1984Echoes said: Am I seeing this correctly? I'm showing (per MLB.com): 9th rounder Kenneth Ward - slot value $204.5K signed for $22.5K? ~ Savings of $180K? 10th rounder Jack Turner - slot value $193.5K signed for $7.5K? ~ Savings of $185K? I mean... I know the savings are going towards signing Will Adams, which we've already done... but... OUCH!!! Those poor guys! Taken along with the ($220K?) savings on Flukey, and I can imagine something somewhat similar on a few of the other reported signings... Does that add up to a $1M bonus to Will Adams or are we getting up to $1.5M at this point. Rumor was he wanted $1.5 mill so... Harris is being tough on these kids and swinging one more high-end prospect our way...! Me likey! (But I still feel bad for all the other dudes, especially the later rounds who have smallish slots anyways prior to getting negotiated down to almost nothing...wowza!) PS: Is he going to make a push for one or two of Dunwoody/ Byers/ Zielinski now? I mean both those guys are seniors, it's why you take them at the back half of your top 10 to help your flexibility around the other guys who either get floated down or you are going over slot. Yeah those signing bonuses aren't great but they still get to play baseball professionally. 1 Quote
LongLiveMaroth Posted July 17 Posted July 17 This is part of why the MLB draft is so different from other drafts, you have a pool of money so you aren't always picking the best player in the next round you may be picking someone who would probably get picked 10 rounds later but you can give them less it's all about the math and making it work for you. Quote
Tigermojo Posted July 17 Posted July 17 Everyone last year received a minimum of 150k. I think this might be a clerical error. Quote
papalawrence Posted July 18 Posted July 18 Yeah, Al kaline got $35k 73 years ago. I doubt players would be signing for less today. Quote
microline133 Posted July 18 Posted July 18 This is not a clerical error. It is routine business and these players told the Tigers they would sign for these bonuses before they even picked them. There will not be any animosity toward the club over this. 3 3 Quote
1984Echoes Posted July 18 Posted July 18 36 minutes ago, microline133 said: This is not a clerical error. It is routine business and these players told the Tigers they would sign for these bonuses before they even picked them. There will not be any animosity toward the club over this. Mark, one question: Do you know if the Tigers have high expectations of signing one, or two, or all three of their late round High Schoolers? Dunwoody, Byers, Zielinski. Thanks in advance for any insight... Quote
chasfh Posted July 18 Posted July 18 1 hour ago, microline133 said: This is not a clerical error. It is routine business and these players told the Tigers they would sign for these bonuses before they even picked them. There will not be any animosity toward the club over this. I did not realize that teams and potential draftees have conversations about compensation and whatnot before they get drafted. There must be a lot of guys teams have discussions like this with who get drafted out from under them. Quote
microline133 Posted July 18 Posted July 18 The Area Scout's job is to get to know the player, understand what it will take to sign them, etc. They are vital to a team being able to execute a draft strategy. 1 1 Quote
Tigermojo Posted July 18 Posted July 18 I see now in 2024, Ethan Sloan, 8th round college senior took 27.5k. Slot was 221.4k. Quote
1984Echoes Posted July 18 Posted July 18 I know they check on guys for over/ under slot requests. I usually hear about guys rounds 1-3 signing for under slot... so a team can plan to grab a higher bonus HS'er in a later round (McGonigle, Keith was an over-slot 5th rounder at $500K IIRC, Will Adams this year...) I know this goes on. This is just far, FAR more extensive than I realized. But I think I get it ("I wanna play for the Tigers... I know I'm projected later than the 20th round... but gimme $22.5 grand and I swear I'll do anything for the Tigers Org... I just wanna play ball...") or something similar. I'm still "wowza". Quote
monkeytargets39 Posted July 18 Posted July 18 11 hours ago, microline133 said: This is not a clerical error. It is routine business and these players told the Tigers they would sign for these bonuses before they even picked them. There will not be any animosity toward the club over this. Do they tend to defer money to them in future years over the life of their rookie deals? Quote
microline133 Posted July 18 Posted July 18 29 minutes ago, monkeytargets39 said: Do they tend to defer money to them in future years over the life of their rookie deals? Nope. Quote
chasfh Posted July 18 Posted July 18 (edited) 10 hours ago, microline133 said: The Area Scout's job is to get to know the player, understand what it will take to sign them, etc. They are vital to a team being able to execute a draft strategy. Would you say that any halfway-decent player who’s good enough to go in a single-digit round has probably spoken to several teams’ area scouts? Does the contact between the two go only one-way, meaning only scout-to-prospect? Does a prospect ever talk to a second area scout and then contact the first area scout to say that this guy from such and such a team reached out to me and told me they would sign me for X? Just trying to get a feel for the likelihood of what happens on the ground because this is a new consideration so I’m fascinated by this now. Edited July 18 by chasfh Quote
microline133 Posted July 18 Posted July 18 Good Area Scouts build relationships with players in their areas over several years. They talk regularly, they know the families. Players are talking to any scout/team that is showing interest and whether they want to divulge other conversations is their discretion and how they want to play the game. Area Scouts are talking to players as the draft is happening..."We are thinking about grabbing you here. If we do that, does a $20k bonus get it done?" If they've fine their job, the bonus question is just confirmatory and not a real question. The teams are doing the math on their bonus pool in real time as a result of this information. When the draft concludes they have a high confidence in how the signings are all going to play out. 3 3 Quote
Edman85 Posted July 18 Posted July 18 (edited) Standard operating procedure toward the back end of the first 10 rounds... The Braves' 9th rounder this year got $500. Edited July 18 by Edman85 1 Quote
Edman85 Posted July 18 Posted July 18 4 hours ago, microline133 said: Good Area Scouts build relationships with players in their areas over several years. They talk regularly, they know the families. Players are talking to any scout/team that is showing interest and whether they want to divulge other conversations is their discretion and how they want to play the game. Area Scouts are talking to players as the draft is happening..."We are thinking about grabbing you here. If we do that, does a $20k bonus get it done?" If they've fine their job, the bonus question is just confirmatory and not a real question. The teams are doing the math on their bonus pool in real time as a result of this information. When the draft concludes they have a high confidence in how the signings are all going to play out. Also this is why you don't just clean house in the scouting department when a new front office takes over... 1 Quote
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