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22 minutes ago, oblong said:

I'm not opposed to that but it is a side effect and if the intent is to make them a democratic seat, under the guise of racial equality, rather than siply minority represented (which is a key difference to me) then the overall effect may be negated.  

The gutting of the VRA on net is bad in my view. But the part that doesn't get talked about is that removing requirements for states like AL, SC or MS also means removing the same requirements for states like CA, NY or IL. All of whom could draw even more aggressive maps favoring Ds without VRA requirements to adhere to.

On pure partisanship it nets out worse for the Ds, but it's hard to tell the effects without discussing how blue states might react as well

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15 hours ago, Edman85 said:

Gerrymandering is a lot more complex than people make it.

True as this may be, Democrats also can't unilaterally disarm and allow themselves to get run over by an explicitly immoral and unethical opponent. Not a good place to be in as a country, but, here we are.

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5 hours ago, romad1 said:

the devious attempts to use Obama images to juice No vote failed because African Americans are not "low IQ" like Trump says they are. 

 

It's one thing to use this trope for political advantage with their rube base, and they may win a battle here and there by cynically employing it. But when they themselves believe it—IOW, when they're getting high on their own supply—they can't win the war.

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I have MLBTV for Tigers games. The only ads I saw all weekend were of some geezer standing in front of his tractor telling me to vote no.

Every half inning, every pitching change. Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday…..

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3 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said:

I have MLBTV for Tigers games. The only ads I saw all weekend were of some geezer standing in front of his tractor telling me to vote no.

Every half inning, every pitching change. Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday…..

"Yes" didn't actually get that great of turnout compared to "No".... The analysis post-vote suggests that yesterday's electorate may have been more Republican than the one that gave Glenn Youngkin a win in 2021.

But they drove home the message in NoVa hard and the swings in each of the counties around Washington were enormous. 

The two takeaways I have from the affair is that Elon Musk and DOGE get an assist in getting this across the finish line and that, in a Midterm environment where there are actual candidates on the ballot and not an issue referendum like this one, it's not going to go nearly as well for them electorate-composition wise as this one did

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1 hour ago, CMRivdogs said:

I have MLBTV for Tigers games. The only ads I saw all weekend were of some geezer standing in front of his tractor telling me to vote no.

Every half inning, every pitching change. Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday…..

i saw both kinds.   

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5 minutes ago, romad1 said:

 

Well, there is a missile manufacturer going in near Toano. Konesberg Manufacturing. They broke ground about a month ago.

Raised a big stink among the know nothings. Hated to tell them about the Navy facility down the road near Yorktown 

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I just saw a post on FB repeating an unnamed Georgia Congressman's claim that maybe Virginia should "give back the Democratic part of Northern Virginia to DC".

When did they stop teaching history and government in schools. A Republican Congressman who does not know or understand that Virginia (and Maryland) ceded part of their state(s) to create the District of Columbia. I'm all in favor if said Rep would also allow DC to become a state. 

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23 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said:

I just saw a post on FB repeating an unnamed Georgia Congressman's claim that maybe Virginia should "give back the Democratic part of Northern Virginia to DC".

When did they stop teaching history and government in schools. A Republican Congressman who does not know or understand that Virginia (and Maryland) ceded part of their state(s) to create the District of Columbia. I'm all in favor if said Rep would also allow DC to become a state. 

It would complicate my softball league.  

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2 hours ago, CMRivdogs said:

I just saw a post on FB repeating an unnamed Georgia Congressman's claim that maybe Virginia should "give back the Democratic part of Northern Virginia to DC".

When did they stop teaching history and government in schools. A Republican Congressman who does not know or understand that Virginia (and Maryland) ceded part of their state(s) to create the District of Columbia. I'm all in favor if said Rep would also allow DC to become a state. 

Ahh, it’s just sour grapes. They’re learning that undermining democracy can cut both ways, not just one.

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39 minutes ago, chasfh said:

Ahh, it’s just sour grapes. They’re learning that undermining democracy can cut both ways, not just one.

They're also mad that Democrats grew a spine for once instead of rolling over and saying "Sir, may I have another"

Bullies don't like folks who fight back

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2 hours ago, CMRivdogs said:

They're also mad that Democrats grew a spine for once instead of rolling over and saying "Sir, may I have another"

Bullies don't like folks who fight back

But bullies sure do respect folks who know how to fight back.

Funny how that works, huh?

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By the way, we all know this will not be the extent of Republican attempts to fix the election, right? Especially given all the open talk of impeachment and imprisonment of Republicans once Democrats take the House and Senate. If this bald-faced upfront cheating on redistricting doesn’t work, there will be other strategies employed during the election and on the backend, because if anyone thinks Trump and the Republicans are going to just sit around and allow a free and fair election to strip them of power and expose them to criminal liability, they’re delulu.

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Oh, the flailing ...

MAGA Republicans want Trump to annex Arlington for D.C.

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The plan for Washington from 1972, with territory from Virginia and Maryland. Image: Courtesy of Maryland Center for History and Culture/366

It's been a fringe fantasy for D.C. die-hards, but now it's finding common cause among MAGA: taking back Arlington.

Why it matters: A Trump ally wants to weaken Virginia Democrats by removing the blue NoVA suburb.

What's happening: For some very-online urbanists, "Recreate the Diamond" has been an irredentist dream (D.C. was originally 100 square miles — almost 50% larger than it is today) and seizing more city (hello, 400,000 new Washingtonians).

  • For Republicans, it's a counterattack. It would blow up the congressional map Democrats just redrew 10-1 in their favor.
  • That's the thinking advanced by Chad Mizelle, a former Trump DOJ official. Mizelle thinks the president should sign an executive order declaring Virginia's 1847 retrocession unconstitutional, forcing the Supreme Court to decide for the first time whether Arlington and Alexandria (yes, Old Town, too) are rightfully the District's.
  • "Residents of this region should feel right at home as part of D.C.," he wrote in a Fox News op-ed, telling Trump to "fight fire with fire."

Would Trump do it? The White House didn't comment.

  • Mizelle — an ally of Stephen Miller — tells me it's "worth a shot."

State of play: Taking it further, Republican Georgia congressman Rich McCormick introduced a bill Thursday, under the banner of "Make D.C. Square Again."

  • Democratic Virginia Rep. Don Beyer called it a "stupid waste of time."

The intrigue: Politics aside, would being reunited feel so good?

  • D.C. would get skyscrapers, rich taxpayers, Clarendon bar fights, double the number of Cheesecake Factories, car dealerships (the lack of which has spawned anti-statehood arguments). Amazing Vietnamese food!
  • Plus an airport and strategic control of the Potomac.

The bottom line: Some conservatives call it the "People's Republic of Arlington," but even liberal Virginians might not stand going back to Taxation Without Representation.

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It's been a MAGA wet dream for a while now. What they do realize is how much tax revenue comes that area. Not to mention it would open the door to DC statehood. 2 new Democratic Senators, possible 3 additional Reps to Congress.

 

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