2026 Congressional Elections

[Motown Bombers]

Just now, gehringer_2 said:

BTW, AES now running on the fact that AIPAC is supporting his opponent as a positive campaign argument. Measure of how much times have changed.

Yes, the left has turned into antisemites. They basically do six degrees of Israel. If a friend of friend of a filthy Jew donated to your campaign, you're not pure. 

[gehringer_2]

12 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

That was his appeal. Platner wears flannel and has a beaver's ass on his face so he's a manly man.

That's always been politics though - Lincoln may have been one of the more intellectual presidents we ever had, he ran as 'Rail Splitter Abe'. I think the only guys who are insulated from being dinged for being classy were the War heroes from WWII. I don't think a guy who talked like he was from Harvard and looked the part too as much as JFK would have a chance today, but the guy was a war hero who proved how much a grunt he could be by being blown out of the water and then swimming to safety with some poor wounded GI on his back. There is no way for a classy guy to buy those kind of Bona Fides with the everyday public today. Obama was an exception of course, but he was the exception to everything - maybe exactly because everything about his past argued he shouldn't be who he was?

Edited 1 hour ago by gehringer_2

[Motown Bombers]

2 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

That's always been politics though - Lincoln may have been one of the more intellectual presidents we ever had, he ran as 'Rail Splitter Abe'. I think the only guys who are insulated from being dinged for being classy were the War heroes from WWII. I don't think a guy who talked like he was from Harvard and looked the part too as much as JFK would have a chance today, but the guy was a war hero who proved how much a grunt he could be by swimming to safety with some poor wounded GI on his back. There is no way for a classy guy to buy those kind of Bona Fides with the everyday public today. Obama was an exception of course, but he was the exception to everything - maybe exactly because everything about his past argued he shouldn't be who he was?

Right, it has nothing to do with economic progressivism. I have not heard anything from Platner that is new or different. People on the left or giving up all their principles and what they claimed to care about to support this guy. It's Donald Trump but from the left. I couldn't have fathomed that a blackwater op who is against assault rifle bans who voted for Republicans would be the darling of the left. 

[gehringer_2]

1 minute ago, Motown Bombers said:

Right, it has nothing to do with economic progressivism. I have not heard anything from Platner that is new or different. People on the left or giving up all their principles and what they claimed to care about to support this guy. It's Donald Trump but from the left. I couldn't have fathomed that a blackwater op who is against assault rifle bans who voted for Republicans would be the darling of the left. 

well whatever you want to call it, it is about giving people back a sense of control over their lives. IMO the greatest danger to the constitution order is people deciding they don't care about the niceties because it's not working for them anyway. What good is a constitution that's supposed to guarantee your liberty if you feel like you are living the life of a slave?

[Motown Bombers]

1 minute ago, gehringer_2 said:

well whatever you want to call it, it is about giving people back a sense of control over their lives. IMO the greatest danger to the constitution order is people deciding they don't care about the niceties because it's not working for them anyway. What good is a constitution that's supposed to guarantee your liberty if you feel like you are living the life of a slave?

It's about racism but from the left. You notice how the left is always obsessed with the white working class? When they lose primaries after the blacks down south vote, the election was rigged. Gee, elections being rigged in areas with high black populations, that sounds familiar. Platner is selling the people of Maine a con like Trump. They are sacrificing everything they claimed were their principles for this guy the same way MAGA does for Trump. 

[Motown Bombers]

Keep in mind these economic progressives who think billionaires are the scourge of the earth are endorsing a billionaire for governor of California. 

[chasfh]

5 hours ago, romad1 said:

Good.  I'm glad this is a wedge issue.   Trump's corruption, imperial excesses and vanity boiled down to the term: billion-dollar ballroom. 

 

Give him time, he'll get them all to cave. He's taking names now and then he's gonna kick their asses.

[chasfh]

3 hours ago, Motown Bombers said:

Of course not now, but he ran as the progressive. He was endorsed in the primary by Bernie Sanders. Fetterman supported Bernie Sanders presidential campaign. Fetterman distanced himself from progressives after he got elected. This isn't debatable. He ran as a progressive. 

And now he's saying even after his near-180, he won't leave the Democratic Party, and why would he? He can be much more effective working to hollow out the party from the inside than he can trying to bombard it from the outside.

[chasfh]

1 hour ago, Tigerbomb13 said:

When you see Republicans talk about things like this, take it seriously. This will be their next step. 

Slippery slope definitely applies here. With every victory they achieve rescinding the established rights of people considered today to be on the margins, they will try to expand it to apply to more and more people until it applies to the rest of us. There will never be a point at which they say, "OK, that's enough, we're done" until we the 99% exist only to serve them. That's their true end goal.

[chasfh]

27 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

Keep in mind these economic progressives who think billionaires are the scourge of the earth are endorsing a billionaire for governor of California. 

We've had a billionaire for governor in Illinois going on eight years, and he's been great, and I'll be sorry to see him go, because I'm afraid of what could come next. I acknowledge he has been a total outlier as a traitor to his class.

[gehringer_2]

47 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

It's about racism but from the left. You notice how the left is always obsessed with the white working class? When they lose primaries after the blacks down south vote, the election was rigged. Gee, elections being rigged in areas with high black populations, that sounds familiar. Platner is selling the people of Maine a con like Trump. They are sacrificing everything they claimed were their principles for this guy the same way MAGA does for Trump. 

Black in the US are more socially conservative than the average white progressive, maybe even more than the average white liberal. It comes down to the argument about "order". People suffering life in highly disordered places like US urban cores, develop an appreciation for order that can seem paradoxical to the rest of us when the agents of order are also usually the agents of repression and abuse, but life is complex. Mainstream Black America doesn't want fewer cops, they want better cops.

Edited 56 minutes ago by gehringer_2

[chasfh]

My concern is that with all these anti-democracy gains, the red hats are going to be super-energized and stream to the polls in November, because everyone likes backing their guy when he's so obviously winning, while everyone else is demoralized and throws up their hands and say aw **** it, we can't win, what's the use. All of a sudden it looks like Democrats may end up losing seats in both houses, and if you think it's been bad up to this point, after that it would be Katie bar the door. This is not a prediction.

Edited 42 minutes ago by chasfh