2026 Congressional Elections

[Motown Bombers]

Voters are to blame for Republican president republican policies. 

[Mr.TaterSalad]

2 hours ago, GalagaGuy said:

To add some numbers, here are the third party voting totals for Michigan ......

2008 - 80,548

2012 - 51,136

2016 - 250,902

2020 - 85,410

2024 - 111,017

You'll see the same pattern if you look at Wisconsin and Pennsylvania.  As a reminder, Trump won Michigan in 2016 by 10,704 votes.  

I've argued this for years with regards to third party voting. If you are going to say that most or every Green Party vote that went to Jill Stein should have gone to Clinton, then you have to be willing to say the same of Libertarian Party votes that went to Gary Johnson and say those should be Trump votes on the right. Gary Johnson got 172,136 votes in 2016 in Michigan and Jill Stein got 51,463 votes in 2016 in Michigan. So Johnson hurt Trump more than Stein did Clinton. The numbers get even worse when you factor in the other right wing candidate, Darrell Castle, from the Constitution Party.

These numbers hold in all the swing states as well, Johnson outperformed Stein. So in Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, Johnson took more votes from Trump than Stein took from Clinton.

Edited 1 hour ago by Mr.TaterSalad

[GalagaGuy]

1 minute ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

I've argued this for years with regards to third party voting. If you are going to say that most or every Green Party vote that went to Jill Stein should have gone to Clinton, then you have to be willing to say the same of Libertarian Party votes that went to Gary Johnson and say those should be Trump votes on the right. Gary Johnson got 172,136 votes in 2016 in Michigan and Jill Stein got 51,463 votes in 2016 in Michigan. So Johnson hurt Trump more than Stein did Clinton.

Both candidates were getting support from Bernie voters, they never coalesced around either one.  It didn't matter who they voted for, all that mattered to them was that they weren't voting for Clinton. 

[Motown Bombers]

3 minutes ago, GalagaGuy said:

Both candidates were getting support from Bernie voters, they never coalesced around either one.  It didn't matter who they voted for, all that mattered to them was that they weren't voting for Clinton. 

After Trump and MAGA, Bernie Sanders is the worst thing to happen to this country. He corrupted a whole generation. 

[GalagaGuy]

Another thing, we don't even know how many write in votes Bernie received in 2016 in Michigan as they weren't even counted since he hadn't filed a declaration of intent.  Considering Even McMullin received 8,177 votes, I'd probably take the bet that Bernie received more write ins than Trump's margin of victory. 

[pfife]

31 minutes ago, GalagaGuy said:

There's a difference between people who voted for who the wanted to vote for and butthurt little babies who voted for someone out of spite.  

Yeah i agree for instance the people who voted for trump helped trump win a contest of who gets more votes way more than the people who voted for people other than trump.

Similarly the pistons players who scored baskets helped the pistons win a game much more than the people who scored baskets for cleveland

Edited 1 hour ago by pfife

[Motown Bombers]

Never forget Bernie Sanders press secretary from 2016. (Who supported Stein again in 2024). 

[pfife]

Never forget someone didnt support the same candidate as you 10 years ago!!!  Dont tread on you!!!!

[pfife]

29 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

Voters are to blame for Republican president republican policies. 

Running cover for Republicans is a choice 

[Motown Bombers]

One of the worst things, Sanders is 84, his term runs until he’s 89, he’s already had a heart attack, but we can’t have him die because Vermont has a republican governor. Ageism is selective.