4/25/26 1:00PM Rd1 Gm3 Pistons 1-1 @ Magic 1-1

[Tigeraholic1]

Kia Center - Orlando, FL

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Edited 10 hours ago by Tigeraholic1

[Deleterious]

Some on/off numbers for individuals.  These are per/100 possessions.

Cade - +38.7

Duren - +1.4

Harris - +1.6

Robinson - +16

Green - -0.3

Thompson - +37.3

Stewart - -11.6

Jenkins - -26

 

[buddha]

1 hour ago, Deleterious said:

Some on/off numbers for individuals.  These are per/100 possessions.

Cade - +38.7

Duren - +1.4

Harris - +1.6

Robinson - +16

Green - -0.3

Thompson - +37.3

Stewart - -11.6

Jenkins - -26

 

seems right except for stew's minus 11.  but that could be garbage time and him being saddled with playing too many minutes with jenkins.

[buddha]

I think they should now know who needs to get paid (ausar) and who needs to have someone else pay them (duren).

[Shinzaki]

Disagree on Duren...he's been a focal point of Orlando's defense for a reason.

I'm not entirley convinced he's completely  healthy right now...since his knee injury he does not look as explosive off the floor as he was prior to that...I suspect he might be playing through a nagging injury.  Nonetheless..he's made strides in a number of areas this year, including his ability to make passes off the double team when they collapse.

 

[buddha]

3 hours ago, Shinzaki said:

Disagree on Duren...he's been a focal point of Orlando's defense for a reason.

I'm not entirley convinced he's completely  healthy right now...since his knee injury he does not look as explosive off the floor as he was prior to that...I suspect he might be playing through a nagging injury.  Nonetheless..he's made strides in a number of areas this year, including his ability to make passes off the double team when they collapse.

 

1) it doesnt matter what happens this year because theyre going to pay duren.  hope for continued growth.

2) i'm not sure they are focusing more on duren than just packing the lane because the pistons cant shoot, and taking away the pick and roll.  that's not "focusing on duren" to me and rather focusing on taking away a huge part of DETROIT'S offense.  you can say that's just as much focusing on cade.

the dofference being cade is able to do other things.  duren is only able to roll to the basket and get lobs from cade.  he cant create his own shot.  he cant score when other teams set out to stop the pistons pick and roll.

3) if they really are "focusing on duren", it shows how easy it is to stop him.  as opposed to cade.  to me that shows duren as a replaceable player, not an irreplaceable max contract player.