04/24/2026 6:40p EDT Detroit Tigers at Cincinnati Reds

[gehringer_2]

12 hours ago, SoCalTiger said:

Hinch please straighten out your ship. Sloppy. Errors....

someone up thread said they miss Meadows - but they played most of last season without him - maybe they are missing McKinstry as much as anyone.

Of course pitchers' errors are another problem. Hinch's rep is that they work this stuff hard, but I guess it's not taking.

Edited 2 hours ago by gehringer_2

[Sports_Freak]

4 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

don't underestimate the smaller K zone. Walks are up all across the league, and the Tiger pitchers are actually about average overall. Of course given that Skubal is WAY below average that means everyone else is a bit above, but as a team they are not an outlier (yet?). These guys all need to pitch to the smaller zone - and I don't think anybody should expect to see last yrs ERAs. That said, the converse is that the offense has to better than last year as well because everyone else's will be.

Maybe so. But are teams now refusing to swing at pitches the Tiger bullpen throws? Vest was all over the place last night, even the smaller strike zone didn't matter. He was terribly wild. And that's not acceptable in one of our necessary bullpen arms. I know Lee said his inning splits are about the same but it really seems like the earlier he's used, the worse he is. Maybe it's just magnified, IDK. But his implosions are catastrophic.

[NorthWoods]

Verlander to the pen.

[Tenacious D]

Just inconsistent—you don’t know which version of each reliever will show up. Vest and Holton seem to encompass this the most—are you going to get their good version or the evil twin?