5/13/26 8:00PM Cavs RD2 GM5 (2-2) @ Pistons (2-2)

[Deleterious]

Detroit had four shot clock violations in the 4th quarter.  

[DTroppens]

3 minutes ago, Deleterious said:

Detroit had four shot clock violations in the 4th quarter.  

I was trying to figure out how many they had in the game. You can go games before you see four, but doing it in a quarter?

Edited 3 hours ago by DTroppens

[Shinzaki]

Refs didn't help...but...they choked

[NYLion]

JB cost them that game. Waited too long to bring in Reed then didn't sit Reed at all after that by replacing with Stewart for a time so he ran out of gas eventually, keeping Lavert in the game when he clearly didn't have it tonight, the Jenkins/Sasser lineup was weird and the worst of all, wasting that challenge on the Lavert foul so they were unable to challenge the obvious foul on Ausar at the end. This was a winnable game that the Pistons, led by their coach, completely choked away. One of the most frustrating games I've ever watched.

[NYLion]

42 minutes ago, Betrayer said:

No. That’s how turnovers happen. You don’t go 1 on 2 or 1 on 3. Cade did everything to bring this game home. He was let down by his coach and his teammates.  

Anybody blaming Cade for this loss are completely clueless. He was doing everything once Harris cooled down and was exhausted down the stretch. Exactly right, he was let down by his coach first and foremost and his teammates. 3 guys played well most of the game, Cade, Harris and Jenkins. Stew played well for a time and Reed for stretches but it was largely a 3 man show and then largely a 1 man show as Harris faded because he was also gassed.

[Deleterious]

Both things can be true.  

Cade kept the team in the game pretty much by himself.  But he also made some massive mistakes that let Cleveland send it to OT and eventually win it.  

He wandered off of his man multiple times leading to made 3 pointers.  Strus picking his pocket for the Mitchell layup.  Not boxing out Harden and giving up a huge offensive rebound for Cleveland.  

[Mr.TaterSalad]

22 minutes ago, NYLion said:

JB cost them that game. Waited too long to bring in Reed then didn't sit Reed at all after that by replacing with Stewart for a time so he ran out of gas eventually, keeping Lavert in the game when he clearly didn't have it tonight, the Jenkins/Sasser lineup was weird and the worst of all, wasting that challenge on the Lavert foul so they were unable to challenge the obvious foul on Ausar at the end. This was a winnable game that the Pistons, led by their coach, completely choked away. One of the most frustrating games I've ever watched.

The challenge was bad, but the NBA isn't allowing the trip to be called. Even if we had the challenge thru would simply say it was incidental contact. No way does the league want a game to end on free throws. 

[Betrayer]

2 hours ago, NYLion said:

Anybody blaming Cade for this loss are completely clueless. He was doing everything once Harris cooled down and was exhausted down the stretch. Exactly right, he was let down by his coach first and foremost and his teammates. 3 guys played well most of the game, Cade, Harris and Jenkins. Stew played well for a time and Reed for stretches but it was largely a 3 man show and then largely a 1 man show as Harris faded because he was also gassed.

Exactly.

Blaming the guy who had 39 points, 7 rebounds, 9 assists, and 2 steals is ludicrous. Yea, he's going to make some mistakes because his usage is through the roof, he's playing 40 minutes, and the other team is keyed in on him non-stop. He's going to miss a close out or two because you can't be perfect the entire game with that much usage on both ends.

Cade was 6 of 10 from three. The rest of the team was 5 of 23. That includes Beef Stew going 2 for 3.  That means everyone else was 3 for 20. Cade was getting them open looks all night. You've got to make more than 15% of your threes. Just one or two of those and the game is over.

Cade shot 8 free throws and everyone else shot a total of 12. Without even getting into the officials giving Cleveland 38 shots to our 20, Cade was getting to the line when the refs decided to blow the whistle. The lack of free throws are not on him.

Cade (and Ausar/Reed) were the only reasons they even had the lead. And they would've walked away with it easily if any single other person on this team would have hit an open three or got to the line in the closing minutes when Cade was getting blitzed and making the right play to give them a 4 on 3 advantage. Tobias, Jenkins, and Lavert were garbage down the stretch and blew this game. Then the refs capped it off with a(nother) no-call just like last year.

Edited 1 hour ago by Betrayer