Shinzaki Posted July 8 Posted July 8 3 hours ago, Betrayer said: 2 years of the Locker Room Killer or 5 years of the 40M dollar Rim Runner? I hate both of those options, but I guess I'll take the 2 year sentence instead of the 5 year one. I like Duren as much as anyone here...but not at 35-40 million. KD would give us another scorer and mollify Cade for losing his buddy JD. Quote
Deleterious Posted July 9 Author Posted July 9 Jake Fischer reporting that New Orleans is not interested in trading TMIII. I doubt they ever were. Probably just listening to see if the got an offer they couldn't refuse. Quote
buddha Posted July 9 Posted July 9 (edited) So this is it. duren (most likely around $35m per year), reed, rookie, tolu? collins, prince, bobi? ausar, holland, heurter joe, duncan, green, lanier cade, rookie pg, danniss who am i missing? theyre cutting gary harris. Edited July 9 by buddha added huerter Quote
buddha Posted July 9 Posted July 9 (edited) what's the playoff rotation? duren/reed collins ausar, heurter joe/duncan cade, danniss Edited July 9 by buddha added huerter Quote
casimir Posted July 9 Posted July 9 1 minute ago, buddha said: So this is it. duren (most likely around $35m per year), reed, rookie, tolu? collins, prince, bobi? ausar, holland joe, duncan, green, lanier cade, rookie pg, danniss who am i missing? theyre cutting gary harris. Pretty sure i saw that Bobbi Klintman secured a contract in Europe. Quote
buddha Posted July 9 Posted July 9 what a waste of an offseason. another year of development. so much for getting robin to cade's batman. and now they've boxed themselves into the ausar/duren conundrum. i suppose trajan thinks joe/collins/heurter is enough to space the floor for cade/duren or ausar lobs? is that it? they see okorie as "kyrie light" down the road to replicate luka/kyrie in dallas? surround them with shooters/rim runners/shot blockers and let them go to work? because there is no cavalry coming now. all that space they created was to avoid the luxury tax after they sign duren. it gives them some breathing room to bring in a guy at the deadline and still not hit the tax. dallas said no on kyrie. kawahi told them he'd never play in detroit (must be a shock to the chamber of commerce chorus on here). no one else is coming here and no one wants to pay big for duren except the kings, who have nothing we want. a lot of swings and misses for ya boy trajan. (watch, as soon as this posts the pistons will S&T duren for a great package) Quote
buddha Posted July 9 Posted July 9 4 minutes ago, casimir said: Pretty sure i saw that Bobbi Klintman secured a contract in Europe. oh no! not bobi too! oh well, we'll always have you sucking in summer league. Quote
casimir Posted July 9 Posted July 9 1 minute ago, buddha said: oh no! not bobi too! oh well, we'll always have you sucking in summer league. Don’t worry, someone else will take his spot. Quote
Deleterious Posted July 9 Author Posted July 9 They brought in a bunch of shooting and somehow still didn't fix the spacing problem. As long as Ausar and Duren are on the court together, there will always be a spacing issue. The defender guarding Ausar will simply ignore him and sag off to help on Cade and take away Duren's space. Worse, the shooters they brought in are extremely one dimensional players. They shoot and don't do much of anything else. Collins can catch a lob for sure. But none of them create for themselves or others. None of them play a lick of defense. None of them are pure scorers. I'm still predicting a good regular season followed by some serious struggles in the playoffs. If they are not a top 1 or 2 seed, they could be looking at a first round exit. Quote
Deleterious Posted July 9 Author Posted July 9 The Pistons should be pushing hard on Peyton Watson right now. With the Kawhi deal stalled, Watson might get fed up with the Clippers and start looking elsewhere. Although, he is from LA so maybe not. 1 Quote
buddha Posted July 9 Posted July 9 2 hours ago, Deleterious said: The Pistons should be pushing hard on Peyton Watson right now. With the Kawhi deal stalled, Watson might get fed up with the Clippers and start looking elsewhere. Although, he is from LA so maybe not. what would they have to trade to get him? robinson, holland and picks? that wouldnt be enough to match salaries. do they need to match salaries? and this is a pointless exercise, theyre not going to do anything else but overpay duren and stay below the tax. they'll keep enough room to make a small deal at the deadline if something emerges. Quote
Deleterious Posted July 9 Author Posted July 9 26 minutes ago, buddha said: what would they have to trade to get him? robinson, holland and picks? that wouldnt be enough to match salaries. do they need to match salaries? and this is a pointless exercise, theyre not going to do anything else but overpay duren and stay below the tax. they'll keep enough room to make a small deal at the deadline if something emerges. They want back the least amount of salary possible + picks. So lets say Watson wants $25 million this year. The Pistons can take back $7.5 million more than they send out. So now we're down to $17.5 million. They have $3.7 million left on the MLE they could use to absorb salary. So now you are down to $13.8 million that Detroit would have to send out for Watson. They could do Robinson + Holland like you said. Holland makes $9.0 million. Guarantee Robinson's contract for $4.8 million, and you have your $13.8 million you need to send out. I would say no picks are needed in this deal. There are other ways to do it without Holland. They could guarantee Robinson's contract for $13.8 million and just trade him + a pick or two. They could add Smith at $2.4 million then just guarantee Robinson for $11.4 million. None of the Smith money is guaranteed so they could cut him instantly to save money. They could include Smith + Lanier + Robinson guaranteed at $9.3 million. Denver has 4 roster spots to fill, the cheap deals of Smith and Lanier might appeal to them. Now we would only be saving Denver about $10 million in salary. But the luxury tax savings are why they make this move. It would/should save them about $70 million in luxury tax payments, so $80 million total. Of course the biggest hurdle might be convincing Watson to sign here. He seems pretty set on going back home to Los Angeles. Quote
buddha Posted July 10 Posted July 10 no summer league thread? watching the first game and listening to stan van gundy say that jalen duren is worth being the 6th highest paid player in the league. just reminds me how much i hate stan van gundy. #devinbooker, #donovanmitchell, #neverforget. 2 Quote
buddha Posted July 10 Posted July 10 okorie looked pretty good. nice handle. their second round pick is a project. dont expect anything soon. Quote
Deleterious Posted July 10 Author Posted July 10 It would be a struggle to match his salary. Not really interested in him anymore to be honest. Especially if he is looking for a new/bigger contract. Quote
Deleterious Posted July 15 Author Posted July 15 Stay tuned for tomorrow's announcement that Caris LeVert will be added to Team USA. 1 Quote
Deleterious Posted July 16 Author Posted July 16 DraftKings has Detroit's win total O/U at 50.5 games. Quote
buddha Posted July 16 Posted July 16 39 minutes ago, Deleterious said: DraftKings has Detroit's win total O/U at 50.5 games. under Quote
Deleterious Posted July 16 Author Posted July 16 4 minutes ago, buddha said: under I would feel pretty comfortable taking the over. Under 50 wins this season would have put them as the 5th seed. That is a first round exit most likely. Quote
buddha Posted July 16 Posted July 16 7 minutes ago, Deleterious said: I would feel pretty comfortable taking the over. Under 50 wins this season would have put them as the 5th seed. That is a first round exit most likely. you didnt like any moves they made this offseason. theyre going to play okorie a TON and you think he should be in the g league. so many teams in the east have gotten better and the pistons treaded water or went backwards. i get it. they try hard. but there will be less teams tanking this year, and a much harder schedule. i'll take the under. i think 50 is their ceiling. Quote
Deleterious Posted July 16 Author Posted July 16 16 minutes ago, buddha said: you didnt like any moves they made this offseason. theyre going to play okorie a TON and you think he should be in the g league. so many teams in the east have gotten better and the pistons treaded water or went backwards. i get it. they try hard. but there will be less teams tanking this year, and a much harder schedule. i'll take the under. i think 50 is their ceiling. I do hate their moves for the playoffs. But they should be fine for the regular season. Plus Duren will probably be back to his 20 and 10 self. I agree the east improved, but I don't think anyone is going to go wild in the regular season. Philly has to baby Embiid. Same with Toronto and Kawhi. The Cavs haven't improved. I doubt the Knicks push that hard. Orlando is blah and injury prone. I think you will still see a lot of players out when they play Detroit. As long as the Pistons stay healthy 50 wins should be realistic. The playoffs on the other hand won't be as rosy. Quote
buddha Posted July 16 Posted July 16 9 minutes ago, Deleterious said: I do hate their moves for the playoffs. But they should be fine for the regular season. Plus Duren will probably be back to his 20 and 10 self. I agree the east improved, but I don't think anyone is going to go wild in the regular season. Philly has to baby Embiid. Same with Toronto and Kawhi. The Cavs haven't improved. I doubt the Knicks push that hard. Orlando is blah and injury prone. I think you will still see a lot of players out when they play Detroit. As long as the Pistons stay healthy 50 wins should be realistic. The playoffs on the other hand won't be as rosy. indiana....miami.... and no blatant tanking this year. no longer will the pistons be playing waahington's g league team 3 times a year. look, they might win 50. teams take nights off all the time. but last year, teams seemed to take nights off against detroit A LOT. Quote
Deleterious Posted July 16 Author Posted July 16 Talk about terrible reporting. Haynes did not say that at all. Haynes said if Duren takes the QO, it's because he is fed up with Detroit and wants out. Those are two very different statements. Quote
Deleterious Posted July 17 Author Posted July 17 Here is the rest of the league. Some of them are real head scratchers. Quote
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