Larkin wants out?

[lordstanley]

Larkin may not want to play in Canada and he probably wouldn’t like the Montreal microscope, but the Habs have a need and they have assets. Such as assets they had been willing to part with for Knies. 

Edited 5 hours ago by lordstanley

[Jason_R]

23 minutes ago, lordstanley said:

Larkin may not want to play in Canada and he probably wouldn’t like the Montreal microscope, but the Habs have a need and they have assets. Such as assets they had been willing to part with for Knies. 

If Larkin could not cut it in Detroit, I cannot imagine him cutting it in Canada, with the fishbowl of the Canada hockey press. These people are already out to get the members of team USA who are playing on Canadian teams. They would tear Larkin apart. 

I also can’t imagine that Stevie has any interest in sending him to the east, though you have to assume that if the deal is Lundell and 9OA, it would be considered. I also have a hard time thinking that Vegas wants Larkin as much as he wants them. I think it will come down to Minnesota with a third team involved, or one of the upstarts in the west. Like San Jose, Anaheim, or Utah.

[Hongbit]

1 hour ago, buddha said:

you talk about him like he's not a team legend and he's just an ordinary, regular ol' nhl gm.

if anything, he'd move upstairs.

You are probably right that I’m foolishly expecting Chris to hold his GM responsible for results like what happens in 95% of pro sports organizations.  

Edited 4 hours ago by Hongbit

[Jason_R]

Remember, Mr. I, God bless him, pushed all his chips in on the Tigers too and left both teams crapped out. 

People are saying that Stevie is only still here because of his legacy as a player, but they get it backwards. Only his legacy as a player has afforded him the time to rebuild a franchise that, at its low, had the third worst points percentage in modern NHL history, behind the expansion Atlanta Thrashers. He hasn’t been perfect but we lose sight of how historically awful the Wings got. 

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[buddha]

45 minutes ago, Hongbit said:

You are probably right that I’m foolishly expecting Chris to hold his GM responsible for results like what happens in 95% of pro sports organizations.  

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i agree with the snark behind your statement, and i agree with the literalness in your statement.

i think yzerman has done a poor job and deserves to be fired.

[gehringer_2]

2 hours ago, buddha said:

you talk about him like he's not a team legend and he's just an ordinary, regular ol' nhl gm.

if anything, he'd move upstairs.

and then he'd bolt like Holland did when some one gets the real job? 

Trammell was a legend, Joe Schmidt was a legend, Frank Robinson and Ted Williams and Yogi Berra were legends, they all got fired from management gigs.It only gets you so far. Owners are gonna owner.

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[buddha]

2 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

and then he'd bolt like Holland did when some one gets the real job? 

Trammell was a legend, Joe Schmidt was a legend, Frank Robinson and Ted Williams and Yogi Berra were legends, they all got fired from management gigs.It only gets you so far.

how many of those teams were owned by chris illitch?

[gehringer_2]

1 minute ago, buddha said:

how many of those teams were owned by chris illitch?

Sure - It's true Chris I and Yzerman go back a long way, a lot further than most but even that will only go so far. Teams that lose are a big ego downer for billionaires. 

[gehringer_2]

33 minutes ago, Jason_R said:

Remember, Mr. I, God bless him, pushed all his chips in on the Tigers too and left both teams crapped out. 

People are saying that Stevie is only still here because of his legacy as a player, but they get it backwards. Only his legacy as a player has afforded him the time to rebuild a franchise that, at its low, had the third worst points percentage in modern NHL history, behind the expansion Atlanta Thrashers. He hasn’t been perfect but we lose sight of how historically awful the Wings got. 

while the saying is apparently not true that the Chinese ideograph for 'crisis' is 'danger' plus 'opportunity', it applies in this case. The Wings are in a stuck place, Yzerman needs a deep move that can make a bigger impact on the roster than anything on the horizon. Heck - a major move for young talent make so much sense for the Wings, maybe Yzerman should have been playing 4 dimensional chess trying to get Larking to ask to be traded.