Motown Bombers

I want to buy them so I can trade them for some valuable basketball cards since the NBA is too woke.

If he takes an intentional grounding in the end zone, that would be a safety. He had time to get rid of it though just needed to throw it close to a receiver.

I mean, Brad Holmes is the guy who scouted Goff and felt he was worthy to trade multiple draft picks for. The Rams notably did not trade up for Mahomes.

He's also been better at throwing the deep ball. It's weird how when Chark and Williams are your deep threats it's easier to throw the deep ball vs Kalif Raymond.

Weird, so the Rams have everyone hurt is a valid excuse for Stafford and not Goff? Let's not pass over the next Mahomes because Mahomes just come along every draft. I guarantee Kansas City didn't even know they were drafting the next Mahomes. Guess we're just going to be delusional thinking there will be another Mahomes. Might as well just wait until the 6th round and draft another Tom Brady.

And yet here Goff is in Detroit in control of the top 5 offense playing like a top 10 QB away from McVay's epic genius. Meanwhile, the Rams have one of the worst offenses in the NFL and Stafford was having the worst season of his career since the aforementioned regression he had with the Lions.

I think like mentioned before it is an optics issue with the way he left the Rams. It was widely viewed as the Rams wanted him gone so bad they gave an extra 1st round pick just to get rid of him. I look at his 19 and 20 season and he wasn't horrible. He was average and the Rams won, made the playoffs and won a playoff game. I think there is a difference when another team discards a QB vs a QB your team has drafted and developed. The comparison also shows that at the time Stafford was down, Goff was the hot new QB that teams were trading multiple picks to get. It also shows the grass isn't always greener.

I mean, no one actually said that. It has been pointed out that there likely would have been people at this point in Stafford's career circa 2015 who would have been willing to give up on him for the opportunity to draft Goff or Wentz.

Goff is also familiar with Robert Saleh's defense and the results recently aren't good. We'll have to hope Ben Johnson has a new wrinkle.

From what I read, Sauce typically lines up on a specific side of the field vs a specific receiver so I think Ben Johnson will be able to get favorable matchups for St Brown. I would like to see the Lions get Williams involved in the play action crosses they run so well. His speed is a weapon east-west as well as north-south.

Matt Patricia would have them running sprints outside in the cold.

It's also probably not a good thing that you didn't realize Goff can't run your offense and/or go deep until after you gave him a massive contract.

I don't think they are similar, I think their career path is similar. The Lions could have easily given up on Stafford at the same point the Rams gave up on Goff.

Just so we are clear, I never said Goff and Stafford are interchangeable. I'm comparing their career paths. The talent level is irrelevant unless you feel the talent level dropped significantly on the Lions from 2011 to 2012 and beyond.

Fair point. The Rams didn't have one of the greatest WR of all time. The seasons I'm comparing Stafford to Goff were before Patricia.

The similarities don't end there. In Stafford's 7th season, when he was 27, Lions offensive coordinator Joe Lombardi is fired and Jim Bob Cooter is elevated to offensive coordinator. Stafford's QB rating improves from 86 under Lombardi to 105. His elevated play continues into the next season and beyond. In Goff's 6th season, when he was 27, Anthony Lynn is fired for all intents and purposes. Ben Johnson is de facto coordinator with Campbell calling plays. Goff's play greatly improves and that improvement continues in the next season. It remains to be seen whether Goff continues to play at this level like Stafford did, but the similarities are too remarkable to ignore.

I feel this year he has proven he is capable of being the QB he was in 2017 and 2018 which was a franchise QB. The Rams thought highly enough of that production to make him the highest paid player in football at the time. I think he shown enough this year to table QB discussions for at least another year. I believe that he has shown the upside to be the QB for the next few season. I also think pedigree matters. He was the number one pick for a reason. The Rams, including the current Lions GM, thought he was a franchise QB and he played like it for a couple seasons. I also think there is reason to believe, based on examples close to the Lions, that QBs can peak and decline and peak again. I think people made up their mind about Goff the minute he was traded to the Lions. He's playing like a top 10 QB on a top 5 offense. This is a different situation from someone like Geno Smith who is playing out of his mind and never came close to this type of season. Goff isn't even on pace to break any of his single season career highs. He's shown he's capable of playing at this level in the past.

Literally compared one person to Stafford but I'll await your thorough analysis.

As they shouldn't. It should be whether they believe that A) Goff isn't the guy, and B) the rookie QB is better than Goff.

Seems like an awful lot of risk for short term temporary cap relief. I'm not sure the message it sends to them team that you just want to be cheap with the leader of your team.

The one thing I see trending down for the player on the left is passing yards. I would also note his passing attempts decreased. I would also note that when he through only 3,245 yards, he had deep threats like Quintez Cephus and Kalief Raymond. I also don't see the 7th year where the QB reverts to the year 2 and year 3 QB.

The Rams literally had $44 million in cap space eaten up by QBs. 24% of their cap space was taken by QBs. I wonder how many teams are successful drafting QBs every two years?