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I agree with that assessment. I feel, though, after you committed the amount of money you did to Goff and basically signal he is your franchise QB, you should adapt your system to him. That doesn't seem like great coaching to me.

Ben Johnson built his system around Goff instead of forcing Goff into his system. One would think an offensive genius like McVay would do that.

I didn't pay much attention to those Fisher teams but just assumed it was because he was a rookie and only played 7 games. I do seem to recall talks of bust and some reluctance to play him.

Guess we just going to keep regurgitating Goff benefited greatly from McVay and ignore what he's doing now.

I also find it interesting all the blame goes on Goff and McVay is heralded as a great coach. One day you're going to the Super Bowl with Goff and giving him a massive contract and two years later you are recruiting a new QB in Cabo and paying Goff to go away.

You can say this about any position on the field. You can say it about RT. It's really about whether a QB is a significant improvement over Goff. I don't think there is a significant improvement in this draft. There are significant improvements on the defensive side of the ball.

I guess if you are saying he benefited greatly with the Rams because of McVay, than what explains Goff playing at the same level he was in 17-18? McVay is out of the equation now.

I looked it up and Ben Johnson or Dan Campbell have never appeared to work for McVay at any point. Weird.

I've never said the Lions should or shouldn't draft a QB. I'm saying there are reasons to believe Goff can be the future QB. You can say the same thing with about 90% of the QBs in the league. I also wouldn't draft a QB because of the rookie contract. if they are good they need to get paid eventually.

Go **** off

It's weird because it gets dismissed when it's brought up that Goff went to a Super Bowl as well. No one addresses Stafford's decline this year. Even though he wasn't performing well when Kupp and Robinson were healthy and I cannot imagine the Rams were any worse than the Lions teams he played on. The qualifiers work for Stafford but not for Goff. It's been clear that the comparison I have been doing between Goff and Stafford were in their career trajectories. Try to do better and actually address the points made. My point is a GM would be delusional if he thinks a QB prospect is Mahomes since one hasn't come around since and one never existed before. The same GM who drafted Mahomes also drafted Baker Mayfield over Josh Allen. It was part good evaluation and part luck.

So does McVay have a lot to do with Goff's success now? What about Stafford having the lowest QB rating since 2014?

I don't know if he is actually trying to be self-deprecating or not. The dinner is a combo meal at McDonalds.

I wonder if we are going to get some Dark Brandon trading cards?

Holy shit there is a commercial. I'm surprised it took him this long to get on on the NFT scam.

I want to buy them so I can trade them for some valuable basketball cards since the NBA is too woke.

If he takes an intentional grounding in the end zone, that would be a safety. He had time to get rid of it though just needed to throw it close to a receiver.

I mean, Brad Holmes is the guy who scouted Goff and felt he was worthy to trade multiple draft picks for. The Rams notably did not trade up for Mahomes.

He's also been better at throwing the deep ball. It's weird how when Chark and Williams are your deep threats it's easier to throw the deep ball vs Kalif Raymond.

Weird, so the Rams have everyone hurt is a valid excuse for Stafford and not Goff? Let's not pass over the next Mahomes because Mahomes just come along every draft. I guarantee Kansas City didn't even know they were drafting the next Mahomes. Guess we're just going to be delusional thinking there will be another Mahomes. Might as well just wait until the 6th round and draft another Tom Brady.

And yet here Goff is in Detroit in control of the top 5 offense playing like a top 10 QB away from McVay's epic genius. Meanwhile, the Rams have one of the worst offenses in the NFL and Stafford was having the worst season of his career since the aforementioned regression he had with the Lions.

I think like mentioned before it is an optics issue with the way he left the Rams. It was widely viewed as the Rams wanted him gone so bad they gave an extra 1st round pick just to get rid of him. I look at his 19 and 20 season and he wasn't horrible. He was average and the Rams won, made the playoffs and won a playoff game. I think there is a difference when another team discards a QB vs a QB your team has drafted and developed. The comparison also shows that at the time Stafford was down, Goff was the hot new QB that teams were trading multiple picks to get. It also shows the grass isn't always greener.

I mean, no one actually said that. It has been pointed out that there likely would have been people at this point in Stafford's career circa 2015 who would have been willing to give up on him for the opportunity to draft Goff or Wentz.

Goff is also familiar with Robert Saleh's defense and the results recently aren't good. We'll have to hope Ben Johnson has a new wrinkle.