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But you said they missed on their 2nd, 3rd and 4th round picks and left it at that. Using your same logic, they hit on McNeil and St Brown so not sure what is wrong with saying they hit on their 3rd and 4th round picks. They had 6 picks. They didn't have extra picks. They got two stars and an average starter. That's a pretty good take away.

But he did hit on 3rd and 4th round picks that year so I'm not sure how it stings when the Lions drafted the best player in the 4th round that year and got a serviceable starter in the 3rd round so he didn't miss on all 3. McNeill and St Brown were taken before Melifonwu and Barnes so it stands to reason if the Lions didn't have those extra picks, Holmes would have drafted McNeill and St Brown over Melifonwu and Barnes.

Milton Williams, who the Eagles took after they lost out on McNeil, has a 57 PFF grade with no sacks and is on pace for 17 tackles and Williams has more talent around him than McNeill. I think expectations of 3rd and 4th round picks is a little high.

The "sting" of those picks? They draft a great receiver in the 4th and yet the complaining is about Barnes. A 4th round pick is much more likely to be Derrick Barnes than St Brown. It's why teams that build through the draft have multiple picks.

If you swap St Brown and Levi and the draft suddenly looks better. They came away from that draft with Sewell and St Brown which appear to be foundational pieces. McNeil is ok and would probably be better with better talent around him. Two foundational pieces plus an average starter from a draft you had limited picks in to begin with is not bad.

They drafted St Brown in the 4th round that year. They didn't miss on their 4th round pick. They drafted McNeil in the 3rd round that year as well who you said is a decent player so they didn't miss on their 3rd round pick. Brockers was traded for a 7th round pick. I doubt they get anyone better with a 7th rounder. If anything, the Benson trade was a lot worse.

Weird because I've come to realize that Campbell and Holmes are completely unable to turn it around after 1 1/4 years and Campbell's on the hot seat because he chose to receive in the one coin toss the Lions have won all year long.

I don't know if you are being sarcastic or not, but Marquette County is only 66,000. It's the only blue county in the UP. The travel expenses to go all the way up there to campaign is not worth it especially for a candidate that is lagging way behind in funding. She needs to be in Macomb County and the Grand Rapids area.

Tudor is up in Marquette County. Apparently the key to winning Michigan is flipping Marquette.

You don't have to do anything but you're simply wrong on when the two teams started rebuilding. The Jets traded away their best player before the 2020 season and tanked the season. The Lions went into 2020 as playoffs or bust and traded their best player after the 2020 season and haven't received all the picks from that trade yet. The Jets aren't world beaters. I'm just talking about them since you brought them up. I'm not sold on the Giants. They may finish this season and make the playoffs but I'm not convinced yet they have completed some sort of sustainable rebuild. The long view, which is exactly what the Jets did by winning 4 games in their second season of the rebuild. The offense, despite being shutout, is better than it was last year and it's only been 5 games.

If you're going to hold Holmes to the same standard as the Jets, then you need to give him nearly 4 years like Joe Douglas. You need to allow Holmes to get the full return from Stafford like the Jets did with Adams. Douglas basically inherited a 7 win team and had a combined 6 wins the next two seasons.

Jamal Adams was traded prior to the 2020 season. Stafford was traded after the 2020 season. The 2020 season was the start of the rebuild for the Jets. 2021 was the start for the Lions. The Jets were 2-14 in 2020. The Lions still had Stafford in 2020 and were given an ultimatum from ownership to make the playoffs.

Douglas was hired in 2019. Brad Holmes was hired in 2021. Douglas was hired after the draft in 2019. The Jets had 7 wins in 2019. They won a combined 6 games the next two seasons. Douglas has had 3 drafts now compared to Holmes 2. The Jets are farther along than the Lions.

Joe Douglas is in his 4th season as GM so it's not like they turned it around awfully quick or any quicker pace than the Lions. In Douglas 1st year, the Jets were 7-9. They then went 2-14 and 4-13. It's as if these rebuilds take longer than a year.

For a while there I thought you were talking about JD Martinez.

There was always something that seemed off about Wilson. NSFW some offensive language in the clip.

Find that post of me saying Goff and Stafford are the same liar? You're welcome for the insight. Unfortunately a year from now you'll just be lying about what I actually said.

Just so I'm not going crazy, it wasn't Pelosi's responsibility to call in the guard right? Not only was it not her responsibility, but she stepped up and took the responsibility anyways.

Kind of looks like Roger Stone without the pointy head.

Ford should just take Tesla's Freemont plant and tell Musk to just let them have it for the sake of peace or else they will escalate and take more factories.