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I'm not trying to vouch for the party, it's far beyond pathetic right now. But again, Ukraine was always going to get some funding, one way or another. We have been extremely supportive of them as well, so the idea that we're not backing our allies is a ridiculous motion.

You guys seem to think congress holds the purse string, this is 2023, not 1789-2000. There was always going to be a continuing resolution hammered out by a few select folks. Even if it drops direct Ukraine funding to give a 'win' to the GOP, it'll still have some backdoor that allows other funds to be sent to Ukraine. The war machine always gets theirs. Unless Gaetz wins the speakership (which if a vote was held today he'd probably be about 217 votes shy) this is what will happen.

I know Israel will rally behind Netanyahu right now, but isn't he still in power because he was the one that could prevent something like this? I have a feeling when things settle, he won't be around.

Who are we not standing with? Additionally there is no way Hamas saw what happened in the house a few days ago and coordinated this attack in that time period.

No term limits results in some bad politicians, not having them results in even more of them. I'm on board with the rest though.

The "problem" itself can be a gray too. Many MAGA types think it'll solve immigration. My brothers friend lives near Brownsville, TX and isn't too far from the wall. It's a 1/2 mile from the border where she's at and in some places even further away from the border. Once Illegals get to it, they just follow a path built right next to it towards lights for a port of entry. It does nothing to prevent illegals from entering the US as they are already on US ground by the time they reach it. For those areas it gives home owners a little reprieve knowing that strangers won't be walking through their property and gives border patrol a little more time to try and catch smugglers that want to go over it to avoid the ports. It does absolutely nothing to prevent illegal immigration.

I read up from the bottom and just saw you mention democratic operative. I wrote that assuming the congressman said it and I felt that was a bit of a jump. Sounds like he was a democrat and I can understand the reasoning of calling someone that does a mass shooting a terrorist, so I guess he's not wrong, but as pfife said it was a gratuitous shot with the adjective he used.

I've argued just this for some time. For most, but not all posters, the response has generally been any Wall = Trump = bad/racist/stupid, with no room for a nuanced view.

He volunteered for Sanders presidential campaign, seems quite a bit of a jump from that to 'operative' though.

https://apnews.com/article/border-wall-biden-immigration-texas-rio-grande-147d7ab497e6991e9ea929242f21ceb2 Safe to assume we're all pro-wall now?

My brother said he found this on Reddit

You guys might be right about Youngkin, i'm just saying pointing out what appears to be more of an anecdotal issue affecting a very small group of people, which the state appears to be taking steps to correct and ensure no one else is affected seems like a cheap shot. I can give you plenty of anecdotal, but true stories of people having trouble with their democratically controlled states or with the democratically run federal government that shouldn't be used as evidence of incompetence against the democrat executive.

So they have identified 2 people....2. And for each of those, they were felons, reinstated, but had additional violations which appeared to incorrectly strip them. A man in Detroit was able to vote for Biden using his dad's mail in ballot (true, but not complete story), obviously you wouldn't support Whitmer now, correct? I don't really know enough about this guy. A never-Trumper friend of mine lives in Virginia and has been pleased with him.

Sounds like Liz Cheney was lobbying democrats yesterday telling them not to support McCarthy regardless of the offer. I'd love to see the Dems nominate her. A single GOP vote would give that member the Cheney/Kinzinger treatment so there is no chance, but it would be fun to see her approach the threshold and get the GOP nervous.

Time to vote in a new speaker. One thing I failed to account for when I thought the Dems could try and get something out of this.... they just have. Guessing a very embarrassing day or two for the GOP in trying to get another speaker voted in.

He pushed himself in a corner to get this job, I suspect he'll back himself in quite a bit more to retain it. That said, every point each of you make about this pending outcome is legitimate. I think the democrats can get something out of this, how much I don't know. There isn't much to lose on their end, if he balks, rather by his own hand or due to the unmanageable filth he's in charge of, it really doesn't hurt the dems. If he comes through with something promised, it's a bonus.

I don't see those tweets as saying they aren't on board, I see them as invites to come talk to them.

I suspect this is the route we see, assuming Gaetz is around long enough to force a vote on McCarthy. That said, Gaetz refused to compromise on anything and now McCarthy has to give in to demands from the Dems in order to keep his seat. If the dems push to hard, they may end up with nothing as well.

Obstruction of justice charge is a felony and hence why some are bringing up 1/6. Just ridiculous, almost as ridiculous as the shutdown crap that led him to do it.

You really believe Bush allowed Bin Laden to escape just so they could have a boogeyman?

Shawn Fain / UAW update - talks continue with all 3 companies. Two more plants going on strike at Noon, GM/Lansing, and Ford/Chicago. He says really good talks with Stellantis just this morning. He drove home the point that Biden stood on the line with them.

Somewhat expect a surprise pick by Newsom. I suspect he's going to try and find an older black women that has no interest in running so Lee can't lambast him for going against a promise, but at the same time, not influencing what is currently looking like a Porter/Schiff/Lee battle.

I know she technically was still working. Mentally she's been out of it for awhile. California has been represented by her last two chief of staffs for awhile now. Well them and that other senator that told her to 'just vote aye' recently.

To be fair to Fienstein, she stopped working awhile ago.

Sounds like we're on the same page. Only thing i'd mention is the border patrol has asked for more wall, not a wall from the gulf of mexico to the pacific, but they have identified areas that they feel could benefit them if there is a wall, which is in part why walls were being built under bipartisan support prior to Trump making it an issue.