SoCalTiger

Looks like only Fullmer will be traded. So we keep the bullpen intact for 2023 and improve the offense so the bullpen can regress next year ? I sound/feel like a damaged child. Look what this team can do to you. Go away Al. Be gone Chris.

Unfortunstely he's no longer elgible. But bad joke aside I do find that encouraging on some level.

" It's a bit daft me guarding the guard him being a guard and all "

Bingo ! Al scores with the boss !

I saw him rotating his arm a bit last inning. My guess is injury precaution.

Not sure but I think they have been in the playoffs every year since 2017 ? That's many summers of fun competitive baseball.

Smart move by cashman getting a cheap hot reliever with 5 years of control. Shows what little we can expect for Jimenez, Chafin and Fulmer.

Not hurt is progress though....

Does anything Morosi says ever happen ?

Ya we have a Dino

Agree. Maybe the best franchise for a player. Full house most games and positive crowd plus mid country geography makes travel easier.

Sure looks like Soto to the cardinals is gonna happen.

Candy lost sweetness again ?

Would anyone trade Skuball for Joe Adell or is he a bust ? Or Marsh ?

Agree we shouldn’t over value Soto or any reliever. They come and go quickly so we we can’t find or develop new ones then time for new coaches organization wide.

Call Seattle and offer Soto Jimenez and Haas for Hancock and Klenic. Would that be possible? Or just Soto for Klenic ?

Seems that way. A version of DD “You play these guys “

Why did they bring up Badoo if not to play him most days ? Maybe a disconnect between Al and Hinch like Money ball ? “ Pena is playing first base “.

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Agree with trading relievers who have big yearly turnover anyway. Plus Fetter might be an asset we can use to develop more. He seems solid. Converting starters is the ticket it seems? Next up Feado. His slider could play as reliever. Probably others.

Yes I think your right and you are way more skilled at talent evaluation than me but when evaluating the trade of Paredes + good draft pick for Meadows you have to keep in mind the return/value for dollar/salary spent. That is the Tampa way and why it is different than many teams especially Detroit. The money saved can be put to use for another asset. Maybe parades was just a two week flash but I don't think so and time will tell, I do know his 1.5 war tops all Tigers. Personally I think Al Aviia and Chris Illitch cornered themselves with the "rebuild is over statement" and when Riley broke his foot Tampa took advantage to get a promising young player that fit their evaluation profile + a pretty high draft pick AND unload an expensive declining player to pad their budget. My guess is they spend that $$ at this years deadline. Look I hope Meadows comes back next year and hits the 25 to 30 homers required to justify his salary and poor defense but I think we are stuck with "Robbie Grossman plus" for what 6 mil in 2023 and if the Tigers think he will fix the middle of our order we will be back in the same soup we are in now. Al sure will want to justify his trade like he did overplaying Demerite, Lugo, Willie Castro etc.

I respectfully disagree. It was a bad trade. Meadows is declining on both sides of the ball while his salary rises. Parades over time will prove greater value per salary cost and losing that draft pick knowing you already forfeited the third rounder was reckless. Paredas knows the strike zone and now has found his power which is why the Rays have always wanted him. I would rather have him and the draft pick PLUS the money going into 2023. Play him at third and DFA Candy then invest Candy’s 7 mil + Meadows 5 mil into the free agent market. And another high draft pick in the system.

Yes it seems the biggest miscalculation was declaring the rebuild over and pushing Tork and trading Paredas etc instead of just starting the season with the new free agents , holding our minor league position players and bringing them up slowly when ready. Maybe Al was feeling the heat to end the suck and now it’s double suck. But no matter he’s still the boss.

I am very concerned about Tork. Too many times he would swing and miss and Dan Dickerson would say something to the effect of “ wow that was a middle middle cookie “ It seems he stayed in the zone and just wiffed. Often.

Mize Faedo Tork all first rounders and two are 1-1 with doubtful futures including Mize before the injury and we ranked for two of them and Al still has his job ? Where in the world is that level of incompetence tolerated in a position of power. Besides the White House that is decade after decade.