sabretooth

I waver on Campbell. A lot to like, and a lot of improvement needed. I will judge him by the middle of next season.

Need more Buddy Time

Swift looks like he cannot cut sharply on the bad foot.

and now all of a sudden the one thing that has been rock solid all year, the OLine, is melting down.

Arrest and charge, felonious assault.

for the record I was never excusing anything....but instigation is a key part of this kind of event where emotions are sky high.

bonghit how did I never see that

Agreed. Its the kind of thing that is breaking out in HS games. Its always happened to some extent, but cellphones everywhere and social media make us hyper aware of these incidents and then make them seem more commonplace than they actually are....and thanks in part to norms being worn down by viral nonsense, people who would otherwise not engage in this type of behavior suddenly feel like, hey this is something that people do now. It happens even without social media (re: school shootings), but social media makes it much worse. Hell we may not have even ever heard of this incident if people hadn't been standing around filming it and posting it with cell phones and social media.

I dont think Hongbit was trying to excuse anything....my take is that hes saying that discipline needs to occur on both sides in the future to avoid this kind of thing.

I dont think thats what he meant.

Yeah, the lack of playmaking WRs is going to doom them against OSU. We have always had guys who can go over the top...its a shame that for such a good team we dont have the explosive or tall or game changing WRs. Schoonmaker is about the best we have, all due respect to Ronnie Bell.

You are right, because this is now a very public "thing", it will predictably attract those who tend to copycat transgressive behavior, and will likely repeat itself unless those who acted badly are punished severely....on both sides.

I agree with this 100%. If 1 and 22 broke the rules and instigated, then shame on them. They clearly broke the rules. Maybe we will find out if/how they instigated anything, and if so, hopefully they will be punished. And of course those who beat on people, even if they were provoked, should also be punished. Enough of this crap.

That's a key part of any system. People who want to blame the system forget that no system can withstand the desire of a group of guys who really really want to find and beat some lone guy up....other than post-facto punishment.

Wow, interest in the Lions has sure cratered around here. Stands to reason....I sure don't want to ruin every Sunday with thia crap-fest of a team.

They didnt ignore it, they made some changes in the short period of time they had. But the changes weren't enough to overcome some peoples' desire to gang up and stomp on a lone player. So now maybe more changes will be coming.

I'm glad to see that Warde Manuel is calling in the police. Yeah, gang up on a guy 4 to 1 in the hallway and start curb stomping him. Just football, right? Jeez.

They had a fairly successful, popular, and in-demand coach, who was also a minority, and they wanted to keep him. I think they also felt that it would burnish his recruiting profile in Michigan and the region and others if he had a huge contract, and this would compliment and build on his several victories against Michigan.

Yeah, I feel bad for him and especially the punter who has had to be a hero.

Trouble with the snap!

Sure would be nice to see Jake Moody as a Lion.

JJ looking great

Blake Corum.....wow

Very weak deep red zone O there.

Yeah, the Pistons play All Star level defense. Too bad its the kind of D played at the All Star game.