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If Levis goes #2 to the Texans it will be because the Colts played them like a fiddle. He would be there at #12. I also think it would be great for the Lions. Dramatically increases the odds Anderson is there at #6.

McShay ran a pretty ambiguous "character concerns" story on Carter in December (before the drag racing had even happened) and was largely vilified for it. https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/todd-mcshay-georgia-jalen-carter-character-criticism/n3rve8vllbzkmuvclyfcelcf

I think it is this combined with the work ethic concerns. If Carter was a Ndamukong Suh once-in-a-generation type prospect, this might be a different conversation, because even if Suh didn't give it 100% (which was never a problem), his 80% was good enough to dominate and his 50% was probably still good enough. Carter is one of the best players in the draft, but he's not generational. His 80% will probably find him struggling, and his 50% will have him out of the league.

I could be wrong. I think he's been off for a while though based off work ethic concerns and that everything since has been a smokescreen towards hoping the Seahawks will take him, or a team will trade up for him.

Sports betting for your sport is of course a big deal. If a year passes and the NFL declines to reinstate Cephus I don’t imagine I would argue with that. It’s common sense that you can’t bet on your sport and there are massive potential ramifications to the sport of doing so. But Jameson Williams betting on Michigan-Ohio State or Alabama-Tennessee is not treason, because it doesn’t matter. One thing has no possible way of being related to the integrity of the NFL. (The books may be different, but that’s their problem). And the NFL knows that, or it wouldn’t be allowed at all (like NFL gambling). To say you can do X here but not here and objectifying that mistake of location as a mistake that is 3x worse to the sport than Adrian Peterson’s act? That’s where they lose me. I also disagree that the NFL being in bed with sports gambling isn’t a big deal. This isn’t 1919 at all. Not only can you gamble at the press of a button from anywhere, the NFL can track that gambling just as easily. This isn’t some Black Sox back alley mob envelope of cash shady dealing. Clearly they can differentiate between those who gamble on the NFL and those who don’t. And FWIW, if the 1919 Sox had bet on the horses instead of the series, they wouldn’t be the Black Sox.

Maybe some parallels related to the maturity, but I don’t think Carter’s immaturity is what got him knocked off the Lions board. Though it didn’t help, and may have been the final straw, I think way back in January when the reports came out that Carter didn’t have a strong work ethic, that’s what did him in for the Lions. Jameson may have made a dumb decision (like Carter), but I firmly believe he’s going to work his ass off until week seven and come out of the gate to be an instant difference maker. Carter OTOH makes a mistake and he shows up at his pro day overweight and completely out of shape to run basic drills.

TIL that CJ Stroud's full name is Coleridge Bernard Stroud IV. Where does the J come from?!? #CharacterFlaw

That's what I think makes six games ridiculous. I understand that the NFL is mad that they couldn't ban all gambling outright, but the answer to that isn't to make a mountain out of a mole hill with suspensions lasting longer than those for abusing children.

RapSheet not knowing is probably more significant. I would presume the policy applies to him as an NFL employee.

I saw that, though he also tweeted this the other day (after he published that mock)...

But if we argue it's a slippery slope, why does the location the buttons are pressed matter? Whether the player does it in the lounge at Allen Park (not allowed), or a couple hundred yards away on the sidewalk, it's the same behavior. I think Hongbit is right that a 1/3 season banishment is entirely excessive for conduct that - when compared to other punishments levied by the NFL - is an absolute nothing-burger.

If you told me yesterday that news would break today that multiple players and staff on the Lions were involved in a gambling ring, I think this is about the best outcome we could have hoped for. The players who were released may have likely been released by September anyway. With Jamo able to fully participate in training camp, I would expect him to storm out of the gates in the 7th game and be an instant playmaker. I don't expect training wheels in the way he got late last year. He'll have fresh legs too in a time when many guys are starting to get hurt.

I don't think this changes things really. Maybe a very slightly more likely chance of taking Bijan or Jahmyr. Comparing Carter's concerns with William's mistake isn't really useful. Carter's primary concerns are with not being a hard worker, with some cherries on top of legal trouble, stupid choices, and immaturity. Williams is only the stupid choices and immaturity. I think I have already advocated for this, but I would like to see an offer for something like #6, #55, and a 2024 3rd for #3 and DeAndre Hopkins. He would have a place on this team with and without Jamo.

Expensive gambling loss.

I think Marvin Jones was in response to losing out on DJ Chark. I don’t think there is a dire need to replace Jameson for six games, unless we suffer another injury at the position. We can’t stand to start 1-6 again, and that happened because of how depleted this team was after the Vikings game.

It’s definitely possible that a week from today I will be less emotional about it and more in favor of the suspension, but right now I’m both annoyed at the suspension and annoyed at Jamo for making a stupid and immature decision. I wouldn’t be as emotional if it were DJ Moore, and I’d probably be mocking them some, but I still think I would think it’s kind of dumb.

That’s just it though. Whether it’s me or him or you, I don’t really care what he’s doing on his personal time if it’s not impacting the integrity of the game.

Should be a new team rule from Sheila, no gambling period for any employees from the concession stand to the coaches to the pilot. I bet if all franchises followed suit the NFL would suddenly relax their rules.

I’ve worked for places that involved extensive travel. I was on the road for four months without interruption. When I was “off” (I.e., in the hotel… the hotel bar….. a newly made friend’s home…..) I was not held to any standards outside those that I would be held to if I was in my own bed. I still couldn’t commit crimes obviously, or trash the hotel room, but this policy seems to go above and beyond that, to dictating irrelevant factors in that time. All the same, Jamo needs to know better, and he needs to do better.

They’ll be alright. I’m disappointed in Jameson, but it’s a stupid mistake. Everyone else was largely insignificant. I hope Jameson comes out in week seven with a huge chip on his shoulder.

What is “on the job” though? They’re allowed to drink in many of the circumstances where any form of gambling is prohibited. For instance, the team hotel and plane. If six games is a prescribed penalty within the policy, it is what it is. Jameson needs to know better and it’s inexcusable. If it’s Goodell and his cronies waving their magic wand and dictating a number though, I would expect an appeal.

Six games seems a bit much for a first-time offense on something that would be legal if done a couple hundred yards from wherever he was sitting.

I want to know what happened. Particularly with Jamo. Moore and Cephus could have been released yesterday and I wouldn’t have cared. Jameson though, we need. What led to him getting a slap on the wrist and others indefinitely?

Where I am at for #6: A+ : Will Anderson A : Trade up for Will Anderson (contingent on reasonable terms), CJ Stroud (including a reasonable trade up), Trade Down if neither Stroud or Anderson are there A- : Bijan Robinson B : Jalen Carter B- : Peter Skoronski, Paris Johnson C+ : Devon Witherspoon, Christian Gonzalez, Anthony Richardson C : Joey Porter Jr., Calijah Kancey D : Will Levis TBD: Anything else

And it’s only April!