Mr.TaterSalad

But is he a culture fit? So what if he can hit 64 yard FGs. Does he fit their culture. If Bates can hit them from 64 yards, but Badgley can hit them from 32 yards and fits their culture, you know who they're choosing LOL.

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I fully believe Holmes feels he can find another Brock Wright in the draft. I'd be shocked if he matched that.

Cam Sutton is the only one that comes to mind.

If it was just her lone allegation, I'd likely be more skeptical than I am of the allegation. But when you couple what she alleged Clinton did to her, rape, with what he did or is alleged to have done to other women like Paula Jones, Kathleen Willey, and Monica Lewinsky, I begin to see a pattern. I think there are lots of great, useful, campaign surrogates that Joe Biden has to chose from. Including a former President in Barack Obama. There are dozens and dozens of federal, state, and locally elected surrogates he could use as well. I don't care in this instance what Clinton did on policy. I'm not even bringing up his grifts as Governor (Whitewater, cattle source future trades) or President (1996 campaign finance concerns). I do care about the moral fiber of the people representing and raising money for our candidate Joe Biden. Clinton isn't morally a good person and shouldn't be out there representing Biden or any Democrat. I want Biden to succeed and he doesn't need Bill Clinton to be successful and win re-election. Nor does he need George W. Bush. I've already blown this thread up enough with my Clinton talk. I won't weaponize my comments to create any further mass destruction in this thread by commenting on Bush being a potential surrogate.

I know you care that Donald Trump raped E. Jean Carroll. It's my belief that if one (you, me, anyone) cares about Ms. Carroll than they should show concern for Juanita Broadrick and what Clinton allegedly did to her. There are many people out there who could be good, useful, surrogates and fundraisers for Joe Biden. Bill Clinton shouldn't be one of them given his alleged baggage.

Then stop using him on the campaign trail and tell him to go home. It's really that simple. Joe Biden and Biden's political team could easily tell Clinton to not be out there on the campaign trail for him.

Do you think it is a bad look though for Democrats to both embrace the allegations from and story of E. Jean Carroll while not acknowledging all the women Clinton allegedly violated while in positions of power?

Acknowledging the plight of women who were violated by a man in a position of power, first as Attorney General, then as Governor, then as President, is not a purity contest. Acknowledging alleged victims of rape and sexual misconduct is not a purity contest. Acknowledging the plight of a 20 year old intern who was taken advantage of by the President of the United State and made to do sexual favors with a cigar is not a purity contest. We can win this election without looking hypocritical. We can win it without trotting out a man who has himself allegedly violated women. If one of our core arguments against Trump is acknowledging what he did to E. Jean Carroll, then I just don't believe putting Bill Clinton out there on the campaign trail is the right look for us. If Bill Clinton never made another public appearance for Joe Biden again it wouldn't sway this election away from Biden. Clinton is a bad person, who, allegedly, did bad things to women. That bothers me and I don't care to see him out on the campaign trail for Democrats.

What's wrong with acknowledging the plight of women that Bill Clinton allegedly took advantage of in a position of power and violated? How about we just leave Bill Clinton at home and don't trot an alleged sexual deviant and rapist out in the public eye anymore? If one of our core arguments as Democrats against Donald Trump is that he is a convicted rapist then I don't think we should used an alleged rapist on the campaign trail stumping for the guy we want in Joe Biden. It makes us look hypocritical and bad to embrace a guy who has rape and sexual misconduct allegations against him while criticizing the other guy.

Forget Clinton's terrible record on policy, in the wake of Me Too I have a real hard time trotting Bill Clinton out there still in the public spotlight and embracing him. We believe Dr. Blasey Ford and E. Jean Carrol but we dismiss Paula Jones, Juanita Broadrick, and Kathleen Willey?

You're the one running around talking about the left embracing violence homie. What's more an embrace of violence than to send people off to war. If you know of something more violent than an exercise where one group of people attempt to kill another group of people let me know.

The other issue I have with regards to this Gaza debate is one around "the left" embracing violence without an acknowledgment of how the center and center left embraced violence for almost a decade in the 2000s after 9/11. Anyone remember invading Iraq? Anyone remember how many of the centrist Democratic politicians told us we had to invade Iraq otherwise we'd risk a mushroom cloud in NYC or a dirty bomb or attacks with WMDs? Anyone remember centrists being upset when we invaded Iraq and as a result, hundreds-of-thousands of Iraqi civilians were butchered and thousands of American troops lost their lives? Anyone remember centrist politicians speaking out against the US use of chemical weapons against civilians when our military used white phosphorous bombs in Fallujah? So while we can sit here and criticize actions some on the left for their embrace of violence, where is the criticism for the embrace of the worse kind of violence from centrists and center-left types who were so blood thirsty for war (or too cowardly to oppose Bush) when we invaded Iraq? What's more violent than a war? I'd say war is the ultimate example of embracing violence. Just look at all the violent warmongers on the Iraq War Senate roll call vote. https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/onpolitics/transcripts/senaterollcall_iraq101002.htm

Same Old Wings

This is pathetic tonight. I didn't expect a win, but given that we're back at relatively full strength, I did expect a reasonably competitive effort. The playoffs are almost certainly not a thing we can look forward to now.

Enjoy a variety of very good Alt Country tunes that I have been enjoying lately. . .

Were you looking for Caller 9 at 734-998-1071?

I agree that there are scummy, anti-Semitic people on the left who are using this conflict as a means to end the State of Israel. These same people wouldn't themselves want to live under the rule of Hamas or the PLO. They wouldn't support the way Hamas treats LGBTQ individuals nor the fact that Hamas doesn't allow for reproductive freedom or abortion rights. I think there are people on the left who shamefully conflate Hamas with being some sort of freedom fighting group and that is unequivocally wrong. Hamas as a political entity and as an operating organization is both barbaric and oppressive towards its own people and the people of Israel. It's also wrong to try in anyway to deny or justify the terrorist attacks on October 7th. There are people on the left who do and defend some or all of this and that is very concerning itself. I don't ever believe that violence should beget violence. So anyone on the left using violence or intimidation as a tactic to protest Israeli actions, Jewish people, Jewish historical and holy sites, is flat out disgusting and wrong. Defaming or minimalizing the horrific legacy of the holocaust in any way, shape, or form is also disgusting and disgraceful. So I am angry, disheartened, and deeply sadden to see videos like what MB shared where holocaust survivors are being bullied, harassed, and intimated. That said, Israel wants to have the best of both worlds too. Jewish Trump wants to sit here and play the victim and use the October 7th terrorist attacks as a license to attack Hamas, Gaza, and Palestinian people with little restraint. He wants to use it as an excuse to rule Palestinians with an iron fist and not allow their own independent statehood. He and is Likud regime also want you to accept or outright ignore the years of Israeli settler violence and the violent, oppressive occupation and apartheid that has been occurring in Gaza long before October 7th. Furthermore, I see liberals and center-left types defending Israel and trying to separate the argument of supporting Israel from supporting its current regime. They are one and the same and cannot be separated. Weather we want to admit it or not, Israel is not much of a true, liberal democracy anymore. It sucks to say that, but the Likud majority, led by Jewish Trump, is in the process of dismantling democracy in Israel and itself using violence and corrupting the political process to hold onto power. With Jewish Trump at the helm, they are quickly trending towards where Hungary is now under Viktor Orban and are increasingly becoming an illiberal democracy. So when I see people saying that we need to stand up for the Middle East's only democratic government, I ask which government that is. Because standing up for Israel, as it is now, is not standing up for democracy. Until Netanyahu is gone and their political system can sort itself back out and get on a different path, there isn't much of a democracy to defend anymore. I am troubled by many people and events on both sides of this issue.

Unregulated, unfettered, capitalism is a ****ing bitch.

Good riddance to Joe Lieberman. That piece of dirt cost millions of Americans access to quality, low cost healthcare by almost single handedly stripping the public option out of the ACA. He did so in the name of profit. Profit for the healthcare industry, profit for insurance companies, and profit for himself for the money he made blocking a public option. All the while, he was a total and complete hypocrite, receiving free, single payer, government-provided healthcare.

He signed for 1 year at $5 million with Carolina last offseason. Reynolds made around $3 million a season with us on the two year deal he signed. I'd ideally like to keep Chark under the $5 million mark, but wouldn't be opposed to having him in here on another 1 year deal.

We are going to need a WR #3 because I don't think Raymond or DPJ adequate replacements for Reynolds. As much as I would prefer a CB in round 1 now with Sutton off the team, I wouldn't be opposed to taking someone like a Keon Coleman at pick #29. And if a WR is their BPA on the board and a culture fit, I could see them taking one at #29.

He says in the video he has "many" Bibles in his home and it is his favorite book. GET THE **** OUT! He couldn't even quote his favorite chapter and verse correctly. 2 Corinthians, LOL!

We needed a win that we didn't get. I can't believe this time last month we had 9 points in hand and were set to make the playoffs. Now, we let a win slip away and the end of our season grows nearer. This really sucks to watch.

Am I the only one that finds it weird that George W. Bush designed the new Lions uniforms?