Mr.TaterSalad

I know it was always unlikely to happen for whatever reason, but, does this Cam Sutton situation make Brad Holmes reconsider trading for L'Jarius Sneed in any way, shape, or form?

There was no point in OJ fleeing like that since he "didn't do it" anyways.

We'd be easily 5-6 behind where we are now if Stevie hadn't brought Kane in. This team without Patrick Kane would be well out of playoff contention were he not here.

I don't believe Ray Rice ever played another down in the NFL after what he did went public. However, Joe Mixon knocked a woman out cold on camera and he was still drafted and signed to a contract.

This is ugly and awful news to hear about. Domestic violence is a serious matter that deserves serious attention. It is far more important than the game of football. Cam Sutton is innocent until proven guilty. But going out on the lam and evading law enforcement is never a good look for an innocent person. If he is guilty of this alleged domestic violence you'd have to imagine he's no longer a culture fit here and will be cut. I don't think this organization, with this regime, will tolerate this type of behavior. If he did engage in domestic violence against his partner then Sutton is as good as gone IMO.

When you look at the past Super Bowl winners, outside of just QB play, they usually have at least one or more units on their team that are elite. For us, with the addition of Zeitler, that should continue to be our OLine. Really love this signing and it keeps our offensive line as one of the premier units in the league.

The Zeitler signing is a nice cap to our offseason. This takes care of one of our biggest needs and gives Brad full ability to go BPA in the draft.

First off, I say all this to say IF THEY TAKE a DE in the first round versus another position, I feel like Robinson would be the type of player they would like. We obviously already know the Lions prioritize a guy who fits their culture. And from everything I have read Robinson is that. He is a try hard guy with a high motor and a love for the game of football. He seems like a guy who is willing to listen, learn, and can be coached up to do things the way this coaching staff wants them done. I see no attitude issues or cultural red flags with him. The Lions also seem to value more complete players, versus either raw talent or guys who are really good at one thing but don't do other things all that well. In this case, a guy who can be a three down lineman versus just a pure edge setting,, pass rush specialist. Three other things Robinson seems to offer is versatility, the ability to play along multiple spots on the line, and run defense. A more complete, but less exciting player. I get the feeling, given what this coaching staff prioritizes on defense, that they'd rather have the versatility of a guy like Robinson who can move along the defensive front than a guy who sets the edge and doesn't slide inside. I also feel this coaching staff would value a guy who is better against the run and can stay in on all three downs versus the more pure pass rushing type edge defender. So if we're sitting there at 29 and there are better "pass rushers" available like a Jonah Ellis type player, they're going with the more complete player who matches what they see in a defensive lineman IMO.

The more I read about Darius Robinson the more I don't want him, yet the more I think he would be their guy if they did take a DE in round one. The guy screams Josh Paschal to me and I've seen nothing out of Paschal that makes me think he's anything more than an average at best lineman with little pass rush ability, no explosiveness and his best trait is his versatility to move along the line.

Kacey Musgraves is a big John Prine fan. Anyone whose taste in music and musical influences include John Prine is alright by me.

What do you think it would take to get Donald back in the NFL for a 1 year deal come camp and would you want Brad Holmes to go after him?

Another depth signing possibly coming our way.

Even if they did squeak in they would be swept or lose in 5. What a difference two weeks makes you feel.

With Reader in, Brodric Martin potentially being elevated in year 2, and McNeil already your top DT on the roster, where does this leave Levi? Will he make the roster and if he does, is he last on the depth chart?

Like Josh Reynolds.

I think McNeil can really blossom and learn a lot with Reader at his side. I think he also by default makes the pass rush better by taking away the run and forcing teams to throw it more often. He's the ultimate space eating dude it seems. Love this signing and these are the moves I want Brad to go out and make.

Hell yes, love this move. Our run defense should be dominate next year assuming everyone stays healthy. We took a strength and made it stronger. We still need an edge rusher and someone to get after the QB with sustained pressure. But this move is a nice deal, making a strength of this team even stronger.

Damn, this bums me out. I don't know what kind of locker room presence Fuller is or where he fits into their culture. However, I would have absolutely signed him for that type of a deal. What a nice deal for the Dolphins.

Trump is Jimmy from Seinfeld. Jimmy played pretty good. Jimmy's got new shoes. Jimmy's the best. No one's like Jimmy.

I think Holmes has clearly showed he won't overpay for free agents. Nothing imaginary about that.

I agree with what MB is saying in one regard as it pertains to the way the Lions treat players and their cap space/flexibility. After how badly Martin Mayhew and Tom Lewand managed the cap around here and after Quinn blew a bunch of it on the likes of Trey Flowers, it is nice to see Brad Holmes and Mike Disner being responsible. But there is a fine line between being responsible with it and looking like you're a cheap organization. Nobody is accusing them of being Mike Brown or the Bengals. However, if the Lions are so hard up to be as fickle and responsible as possible that they have to ask a guy to take a $2 million pay cut and have done this before, that shows you how they treat their salary cap and having financial flexibility. My question is, if they do that to their own players, would they let a free agent on the open market walk over $1.5-$2-$3 million in a contract negotiation? Let's say DJ Reader, whose been linked to the Lions, wants 2 at $25 million and the Lions only want to go 2 at $22 million. Given how he treats some of his own players, would Holmes negotiate with a free agent like that? Would he let someone walk over a couple million he doesn't feel they are owed?

Did I use the word fired? I must have missed that. But 5 years in and we have 0 playoff appearances with back-to-back end of season collapses. On top of that, we have no goaltending depth and are burning out the one guy we have in Lyon. We have signings not working out or underperforming and a coach whose got them stuck in neutral right now. I am by no means calling for anyone, Yzerman or Lalonde. But this isn't good hockey this team is playing. One guy going down for a couple of weeks shouldn't completely torpedo a season like this, but we've seen it now on a couple of occasions that it does. They look like a team that even if they did squeak into the playoffs somehow would be run right over and swept. I saw the growth from years 1 and 2 to where we are now. Where is the next step to get to even being a solid middle of the pack playoff team and what are the moves to get us there?

I agree there. It's not that he wants players to get hurt and be hurt on his team. That would be dumb for any GM to want that. It's that he likes buying low on guys where he can get team friendly terms on both money and contract length. And about the only time really talented players get signed for more team favorable deals is when they have an injury history. So Brad targets guys with a high talent floor, but an injury history that he can buy lower on.

And the GM who put this team together.

He has the injury history Brad likes, so there is a chance he could be had at the end of his career for a reasonable price given that. Brad clearly likes to buy lower on injured guys in hopes that they rebound and don't cost the team much. Michael Thomas is another name out there, who played under Campbell with the Saints and fits the X Receiver type.