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It's not the talent level, it's the execution that's lacking. Regardless, 17-14 isn't a bad position to be in all things considered

Some terrible reffing but this Lions team just isn't that good, clearly not as good as the last two years. Who knows, they might still win this game, but there's lots of issues that are showing out this season.

JB's in game management is starting to rear its ugly head a bit and will even moreso against better teams. He's playing Cade too much, Cade has looked exhausted down the stretch as of late. Jenkins, the way he's been playing, is the ideal type of PG to lead a bench unit and he's largely been phased out and now Levert is getting those minutes for some reason which leads to lots of individual play by the bench. It was fun while it lasted seeing those guys playing team ball. Also, why is Duren guarding Brown down the stretch and not Ausar? Why is Levert out there down the stretch? Robinson is playing too much as well. It's a 15-3 team so all is good now but I'm seeing some concerning signs with JB's rotations which shouldn't be shocking because this is his pattern with Cleveland and in the Knicks series last year as well.

I don't think he's eligible to play until Dallas and the reports are that it likely won't be until the Rams game. I just hope it isn't too late when he returns. A loss today and the Lions have a pretty big uphill climb just to make the playoffs.

I can't believe Frank is back, it's like we were all wishing it into existence and it happened. Amazing It's too bad that he didn't come back sooner because I bet the Lions win the Vikings and Eagles games with him. Those games in particular the interior offensive line got exposed. This is like a Christmas gift at Thanksgiving. LFG!!!

That was a weird game, the entire team looked gassed in the second half and Cade looked like he couldn't breathe late in the 4th. Not sure why Jenkins only got 8 minutes or why Ivey didn't see the court in the 4th especially with the starters looking exhausted, he played the heck out of the starters for some reason. Anyway, a win is a win

Ok, that clarified it for me. I really appreciate the detailed explanation

Incredibly lucky win, lots of problems to fix.

The Superbowl window is closed gents. I had a feeling this was the case before the season. You need to cash in when you're up by 3 scores in an NFC Championship game then go 15-2 the next season, that was their window and they blew it.

The Lions have the look of a team that's cooked, lots of time left but their body language is terrible.

I've been meaning to ask, can you explain the bold? How can they continue to use his money once his contract expires? I don't know, the NBA CBA rules are more confusing than any other sport.

Yep, most definitely. He might not be as dynamic as Beasley but he's a better overall player.

This is the correct answer and at that speculated price, absolutely laughable. I know Utah doesn't have to trade him because he has term on his contract hasn't indicated that he wants out but that price is insane unless it was for a legit superstar. In any event, if they're paying a high price for a legit #2 option, and I question if he is a legit #2, it's JJJ. He's young enough, signed to term, plays a two way game that fits this culture better than Markannen and has college roots in the state. He seems like the most logical option for a big splash trade which I think is unlikely. I do think the Pistons are ripe for a bigger trade. They have the young assets, the cap flexibility, tradeable vet contracts, finally have control of their own 1sts and an overcrowded roster with legit NBA players that won't be able to get minutes once all of the healthy guys return. I have no idea how JB finds minutes for everybody but that's why he gets paid the big bucks.

That was a good win against a Hawks team that has been playing very well. Cade still shooting poorly as he has most of the season but, again, he came up big in the clutch.

Ben Johnson is a part of it but Ragnow and Zeitler were an even bigger part. Without those two studs creating lanes for the running game, the Lions become one dimensional and Goff just isn't good enough to carry an offense that isn't functioning at a high level around him. I also think they've lost some of that fire/swagger. Amon-Ra seems a little off and the Lions are getting physically dominated by good teams, this years' team looks foreign to me.

The offensive line is the entire engine of the offense. The Lions have a lot of playmakers but without protection and good run blocking up front, the weapons don't have a chance to flourish. They also missed LaPorta a ton tonight. The Lions are beat up and there were struggles even when healthy. Obviously plenty of season left but I think the previous two seasons were their real opportunity to win a Superbowl. I just have a feeling that their time as an elite team has come and gone.

The Philly offense has been subpar this season. Not to take away from the Lions defense that played their butts off but the Philly offense has been off this season against most defenses.

I had a feeling this might happen tonight. The Lions have been getting physically dominated by good defenses all season. It's just not the same team that it used to be, the interior offensive line is getting steamrolled on the regular, Sewell is more mistaken prone than he's been in years past, Decker is getting older, more injured and worse and Monty has regressed. Until this offensive line gets fixed, the Lions are a one and done playoff team. Also, it doesn't help when Dan coached a pretty poor game overall. Went for it on 4th down too many times, way too many shotgun snaps for Goff and not enough playaction, abandoned the run largely. Lots of issues

Sign Jenkins like right now, that's it that's all. I really do like Sasser but he can't handle the ball and distribute like Jenkins does. I know it's a small sample size but he's exactly what they need at backup PG with his skillset and mentality. The Pistons are going to have an overcrowded roster if Ivey ever returns, they're ripe for a 2 or 3 for 1 trade down the road. Crazy that they're winning these games and winning them easily while Cade, Duren, Ausar, Harris etc. get much needed rest. They're functioning like one of those top teams that consistently load manage nagging injuries are still able to maintain a good record. It's kind of a surreal feeling not even two years after a 14 win season. I mean, think about how much of a low point they were at as recently as the Summer of 2024. What a wild turnaround.

I don't see this as a should win game at all. No doubt that Sirianni made one of the worst calls in NFL history with that egregious 4th down call against Green Bay but this is the defending Superbowl Champs with a loaded roster that knows how to play big games so this will be the hardest game of the season for the Lions to win IMO. They definitely can win because they are also loaded with talent but they've struggled all season against physical teams on the road so this one has me nervous.

Can't believe they won that game. everything was pointing to a loss and I tuned out before the end only to check the final score after the fact in shock. I get why Cade felt the onus to take over the offense with all the injuries but when you miss that many shots you have to know when to say when. Anyway, they clearly aren't as good as their record indicates IMO but I'm going to enjoy it while it lasts. I'd like to see what this team can do when healthy with Ivey of course being the biggest X Factor

Cade played like a star in that 4th quarter. Can you imagine if this team got a legit #2 option to pair with Cade? They're already a good team as is but they're close to something REALLY good.

And Ben Johnson stopped giving the ball to Gibbs after he killed the Commanders in the 1st quarter. Plus Jayden Daniels and McLaurin played in that game

Hard to tell which is true today, that Dan Campbell is a much better playcaller than John Morton or that the Commanders are really bad? Probably both

You said they only played one good team and got their doors blown off, I was just saying that they beat the Rockets who qualify as a really good team (lots of folks have them as title contenders). Yes the schedule has been soft otherwise.