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Rental bats just don’t bring much. Has any one brought back more than Michael Fulmer since the Cespedes trade? And other than Chapman, very few, if any rental relievers have brought back a top 100. Controlled pitching (and hitting) will bring top prospects. Rentals hardly ever do.

So not for a top 100 prospect?

I wish we would’ve gotten Heasley or Duran at their respective costs. Hoping we are in on Jax, Cade Smith (if available) and/or Bednar-the first 2 would cost a lot more-Smith maybe a bit more than Duran. Bednar shouldn’t cost one of our top 6, but multiple of the next group

I think that’s a fair price for him- 2 plus years of affordable control for one of the best relievers in the game.

That is a lot-still not close to 2-3 hits per game that you said.

No, more like a pair top 40 and a top 100 prospect-not 2 top 10.

I think Lwan actually is a type who would get a couple top 100 prospects-under cheap control for multiple years beyond this one-too rich for me and our team needs.

No one takes away an average of .5 hits per game let alone 2-3.

difference between asking and what you’ll get. Twins don’t have to move Duran with 2 plus years affordable control. He is the type I’d consider anyone but our top 3 (Rainer being my #3)

Interesting swapping Flaherty and Skubal to give Skubal a full week between starts. Edited: Actually it's probably to give him more time with his wife and newborn.

Yep, only way a top 100 goes is for multiple years of control of a dominant closer - IE Duran. I don't include Bednar because as recent as 2025 he was sent to the minors (and was awful in 2024).

I guess I took it different based on the comparison they did between the 2 when both were healthy earlier in the season, but I can see how it is likely the way you say.

Love Kwan, but wouldn't want to give what it would take to get him (with multiple years of control) when our OF isn't much of a need.

An interesting stat, we scored 6 of Kenley Jansen's 13 ER allowed this year in that 2/3 inning appearance. Take out that Game and he's got a 1.64 ERA. Not the high K guy, but he is 1K shy of 9K/9. I'd rather have Helsley of the rental arms, but Jansen wouldn't be awful. (I don't see the Red Sox selling as they are in the 3rd wild card, but Chapman would be my top rental reliever if he were available.)

Yeah, no thanks. This would be a massive overpay, not to mention it's been reported the Tigers have zero interest in Hayes. BA just said Rainer, if he didn't get hurt, had a realistic chance to be rated higher than Konnor Griffin who is their #1 ranked prospect currently - in other words he isn't getting moved to Pittsburgh unless Skenes is coming back: The Skinny: One of two high profile prep shortstops in the 2024 draft, Rainer hasn’t had the rise of Konnor Griffin in 2025, but if not for a season-ending shoulder injury he might have ranked even higher. Rainer is an advanced hitting shortstop with a plus power-hitting peak. Bednar is the only one of the bunch I'd really want and I think he's more likely to cost something like Jung and Anderson/Hamm than he is one of our top 6. They aren't also aren't trading Vierling.

And depending on what ranking site, 0 were.

I really would like to substitute someone or 2 for Melton if possible but would probably do that deal.

They did-today for Paddock.

Why don’t we get all the Twins pitchers. Ryan, Duran, and Jax for one of Clark/McGonigle, 1 of Briceno/Rodriguez, Jung, Hamm, and another pitching prospect of choice -preferably not Melton, but ok with Montero. 3 difference making pitchers under control for 2 plus seasons-would cost a lot, but this would be the type return I’d be good with parting with 2 of our top 6.

Except TJ would be elbow.

I definitely won't be happy if this is all they do (I don't think it is), but I don't hate it either for the reasons you say. Have one of Melton or SGL replace Montero in the rotation and the other to the pen and you've gained at least 1 high K reliever.

Melton can move to the pen and give a high K/9 potential. Same with SGL I guess.

Well in relief in 2023, he had 14.4 K/9..........of course it was 2 appearances for a total of 5 IP.

Similar to last year, and makes sense as a catcher handling a pitching staff. Similar to Dingler's adjustments to new leagues.

Here was the write up on Rainer - for reference Konnor Griffin is their #1 overall prospect The Skinny: One of two high profile prep shortstops in the 2024 draft, Rainer hasn’t had the rise of Konnor Griffin in 2025, but if not for a season-ending shoulder injury he might have ranked even higher. Rainer is an advanced hitting shortstop with a plus power-hitting peak