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And I have no problem trading prospects. I’d definitely include 2 or our top 5 for someone like Gore who would be a difference maker for us for multiple years. I’d include 1 for Clase or Duran (Twins) who would be affordable difference making closers for multiple years. Heck, I’d include 3-4 of them for Jose Ramirez 🤪Just not any of them (top 5) for a rental or a starter without high swing and miss.
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2025 Detroit Tigers General Discussion Thread
4hzglory replied to IdahoBert's topic in Detroit Tigers
We don’t need an OF to try and fix, especially with Carpenter coming back. -
2 really good arms is a stretch. Herring is doing really well, but both are at high A and have a long way to go. Melton by himself is likely worth close to as much as both of them combined. Pipeline has them as 8 and 21 in the Yankees system which is a mid of pack system at best. And the Yankees get a good defensive 3B who is under control for 2 years. Suarez will get more, but I’d be surprised if he gets a top 100 prospect and I wouldn’t give up our top 5 (including Lorenzo) for any rental. All the rest are available (however it would take a more proven high K reliever to part with Melton as I believe he can fill that role for us.
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I'm with you. It makes logical sense, but if they think Ratledge can cut it, especially with Goff's help at the line, then I trust them. I trust them to do what is best for the overall line.
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The difference between the best pitcher in baseball in the playoffs and an above average pitcher like Painter would likely be is huge. If we were the team we had shown through last July and looked multiple years out, Yes, you trade Skubal. If we are the team we have shown since and are likely in the playoffs in 2025 and 2026, you keep Skubal even if you lose him for only a comp pick after. The goal is to compete for the World Series and the $ earned by that is worth a whole lot of prospect capital as well. And with our farm system, it isn't like we are doomed if all we get is a comp pick. We aren't at all in the Angels situation at last years. deadline (although they earned a lot of $ on Ohtani that isn't factored in either which is why they didn't trade him before the season) Painter also has a greater shot of being Jack Flaherty - really good sometimes and not at all other times. Or blowing out his elbow also. Crawford and Abel also are not locks to be any better than what we have in our system now. Barring injury, Skubal is a difference maker in 2026 and that is more important to a playoff team than 3 really good players when you already have a team of really good players and a system with depth/stud prospects (who are just that, prospects).
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Actually, Campbell said Anzalone is dealing with a hamstring injury and will be practicing once cleared.
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the Angels didn’t have a team that had a realistic shot at the World Series.
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Except for those of us in Sarasota 🤪. the Trop is an easy hour drive when traffic is reasonable. It was an extra 30 minutes this year to Steinbrenner Field. But yes, Tampa makes much more sense overall.
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At least from the first 2 pitchers, it looks like they did the opposite. Picked guys with great stuff/velocity who need their command refined.
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Not Edman, but he would have to be placed on the 40 man (and then active roster) to play a game. Then each year he is sent to the minors, he is burning an option. Plus it starts his service time clock for arbitration/FA. So basically no way they do it just for PR.
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Yes, it's doubtful he would. It's also doubtful Cleveland would do it.
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I know it’s not a desperate need, but I’d offer Cleveland 3 of Keith and our top 5 plus Any pitching prospect not named Melton (I think he’ll be needed this year) for Ramirez. I wouldn’t do that for Skenes or anyone else, but he’d be well worth it IMO.
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I definitely agree on Ibanez and probably shouldn't have included him in the tradeable category. I think it's considerably more likely they take the Urshela route and release him so he can have a chance to sign with a team than he gets traded.
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I do wonder if they’re thinking the deadline will take care of some of the logjam. Between Jung, Lee, Anderson, Malloy, and even Ibanez, there are a few guys who could be part of a deal for a shutdown reliever.
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Yes that and he was playing for defense yesterday.
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Every time he’d use him, a LH was pitching.
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It was the 2nd baseman’s fault-the shortstop left the bag to catch the wild throw and Torres was right there
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This series I’d rather the Dodgers won. The Astros are only 1 1/2 behind us.
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I actually have a friend who tells a story from years ago that someone told him to watch a random pitch in say the 5th ending would go to the backstop and he watched the game and it happened. it doesn’t mean the whole game is fixed (like my friend believes) but you can see how people can make a lot of $ on random things you wouldn’t expect and previously wouldn’t be caught. If it happened years ago, I’m certain it’s going on now.
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Exactly. I don’t know about 2 of our top 5, but you’d likely have to include at least 1 of them plus 2 of the next 5 for Miller
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If the Rangers picked up $15 mil of Degrom’s next 2 years,(getting him to $30/yr) I’d trade 3 of anyone not in our top 5. If they pick up $30-35 mil (getting him to $20-23 mil/yr) I’d include 1 of our top 5. (He also would cost just under $20 mil the rest of this season as this year he’s making $40 mil) Degrom is the type of starter I’d trade for-a true difference maker (when healthy) I don’t want to include Mize as that defeats part of the purpose this year and next. I don’t see any reason to get a depth starter (if they don’t project to be a dominant reliever) as they are not likely to be much/any better than the 5th -8th options we have. Give me 2-3 relievers before a depth starter.
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If the Rangers picked up $15 mil of Degrom’s next 2 years,(getting him to $30/yr) I’d trade 3 of anyone not in our top 5. If they pick up $30-35 mil (getting him to $20-23 mil/yr) I’d include 1 of our top 5. (He also would cost just under $20 mil the rest of this season as this year he’s making $40 mil) Degrom is the type of starter I’d trade for-a true difference maker (when healthy) I don’t want to include Mize as that defeats part of the purpose this year and next. I don’t see any reason to get a depth starter (if they don’t project to be a dominant reliever) as they are not likely to be much/any better than the 5th -8th options we have. Give me 2-3 relievers before a depth starter.
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2025 Detroit Tigers General Discussion Thread
4hzglory replied to IdahoBert's topic in Detroit Tigers
I'm wondering who gets dropped from the 40. Maybe Kreidler? If the group from WM are going to move up, then some of the group from Erie is going to need to also and Cruz looks like he could take Kreidler's spot and even Anderson could take Ibanez' if they ended up moving him. I don't think they will yet, but other than the playoff series, he's been awful since early August both in Detroit and Toledo.
