Deleterious

You will find a bunch of guys that improve 3-5 points on their 3PT%. The problem with Thompson and Holland is how bad they are starting out. 5 points for both of them doesn't even move the needle.

Beyond = as long as daddy owns the team.

I doubt he is ever a plus defender. But he does move fairly well for his size. He tested much better than Clingan in the agility drills at the combine.

Was it considered bad? I don't remember that. That draft had quite a few players I really wanted. Where this draft had almost nobody, even the top 4. 2020 turned out to be pretty good 4 years in. Just a shame Weaver missed on 2 of the 3 picks.

Her friend was much better looking and nobody is even talking about her. See, men really are about personality over looks!

I wonder if the Pelicans worked out and/or interviewed Holland? Langdon might of had access to that before he left for Detroit.

My winner of the draft: Lakers. Getting Knecht at 17 is stupid value. Also a perfect fit for that team. They are capped out and can't really do a ton to improve. So getting a guy who is ready to play today is big. Also putting an elite shooter around Lebron is always good. Loser of the draft: Washington. I don't like Sarr but its more than that. How do you end up with 3 first round picks in the worst draft in 30 years?

It should start where they talk about Detroit.

Honestly. The low BBIQ bugs me a lot more than the bad shooting.

Givony didn't like Holland either. Rated him 13th where Sam had him 10th. I don't really follow anyone else since I feel they are the the two best by quite a large margin. But they both have their misses every year. The draft is hard. Maybe things look different if Holland doesn't suffer that season ending injury and missed the last half of the year.

No matt how you feel about the pick, you have to laugh at fans reactions. Nobody, and I mean absolutely nobody, talked about Holland before the draft. Now every idiot with a keyboard is saying how they really felt Holland was the best player in the draft.

It is pretty much statistically impossible to have a 61 TS% when you shoot 24% from three, especially with a very average FT%. According to BR it was 55% which isn't awful, but it is below league average. And I do agree he is probably a bit better on offense than Thompson. https://www.basketball-reference.com/gleague/players/h/hollaro01d.html Everyone says he has potential to be a good defender, including me if you look at the post. But he isn't now. What Vecenie said about him in his draft guide:

Those asking why the Holland hate and the Ausar love. Neither can shoot a lick, so that is a tie. But Thompson does a ton of things that help teams. Already a good, borderline elite defender. Not just on ball defense, great off ball as well. Always in passing lanes disrupting. Pretty good passer for his position. Great rebounder for his position. 6.4 rebounds in 25 minutes is really good, especially since he spent most of his time at SF. Has a pretty high BBIQ. Holland is basically the complete opposite of all that. Really low BBIQ, poor decision maker. More turnovers than assists, doesn't create for others particularly well. Not a great handle (Thompson needs work here too). He has the physical tools to be a good defender, but so far he is really bad. Bad draft you get bad players and I don't think they passed on anyone great. It definitely is not a good pick, and you could easily have picked him later in the draft. But it was probably never going to be anyone that good at 5 anyway.

Lakers win the draft. Great value getting Knecht there. Perfect team for him.

Bare minimum, make the trade and take Holland 9. WTF.

That is a brutal pick.

You win

Holy **** they are idiots.

Bummer. At least Detroit knows ahead of the draft so the can take a big if they want.

Sounds like Portland is also tossing in a 2029 first. Still, Avidja really started to play well last year.