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20234-24 14-68. Now what? (The 2024 Offseason thread)
Deleterious replied to Motor City Sonics's topic in Detroit Pistons
Beware of guys who have career shooting years in a contract year. Or Fred Vinson has been working with him 4 years and it is finally clicking. -
20234-24 14-68. Now what? (The 2024 Offseason thread)
Deleterious replied to Motor City Sonics's topic in Detroit Pistons
I would always take the 24 year old proven NBA player over a future pick. Plus, a pick 5+ years from now does nothing for us. -
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20234-24 14-68. Now what? (The 2024 Offseason thread)
Deleterious replied to Motor City Sonics's topic in Detroit Pistons
How we could help Portland and Dallas. Dallas is looking to dump THJ this summer. Dallas sends a 1st to Portland. We take Green in with space. Young guy, good shooter (38% from three this year), plays above average defense. Kind of limited on offense, mostly catch and shoot, no drive really. Contract is a bit large but not terrible. 6th man type. Could also flip it and we take THJ and the pick, Portland gets Green. I prefer the other way since the Mavs pick will be the lower third of the first round for years to come. -
I think the one guy was just celebrating Max's win in Spain today.
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1. This is funny. 2. AI scares me.
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Tidjane Salaun might be my pick.
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Bronny it is.
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20234-24 14-68. Now what? (The 2024 Offseason thread)
Deleterious replied to Motor City Sonics's topic in Detroit Pistons
How is Williams on defense? He shoots the three really well and his offense should improve playing with Cade. Coby is a real nice player, but not a great distributor. Williams offensive game might improve playing with a better passer like Cade. I would take a gamble on him for the right money long term. Or overpay for 2 years. -
20234-24 14-68. Now what? (The 2024 Offseason thread)
Deleterious replied to Motor City Sonics's topic in Detroit Pistons
Gores is tough to stomach. I think if you had no clue who he was and met him, most of us would instantly dislike him. He talks and talks and says absolutely nothing. -
20234-24 14-68. Now what? (The 2024 Offseason thread)
Deleterious replied to Motor City Sonics's topic in Detroit Pistons
Umude and Evbuomwan were the two players that showed up for the presser lol. -
20234-24 14-68. Now what? (The 2024 Offseason thread)
Deleterious replied to Motor City Sonics's topic in Detroit Pistons
Ah, Gores is using the presser to pimp Platinum Equity. -
20234-24 14-68. Now what? (The 2024 Offseason thread)
Deleterious replied to Motor City Sonics's topic in Detroit Pistons
Perfectly fine strategy at the start of a rebuild. Absolutely the wrong thing to do now. Those types of players are not kept. You trade for them and the picks and cut them. But the Pistons would have to keep those guys because they no longer have endless cap space that you do at the start of a rebuild. Cade is about to eat up $40M of your cap space. Plus, you don't want Lavine around your young guys being Lavine. What a horrible example he would set for those kids. And playing with a player like that will hurt their growth. Remember how Grant didn't work with Cade? Times that by 10 with a guy like Lavine. If he takes this route then Cade should be traded yesterday. -
20234-24 14-68. Now what? (The 2024 Offseason thread)
Deleterious replied to Motor City Sonics's topic in Detroit Pistons
You might want to look at that years #7 pick to see a big reason they haven't won. It was a good move because it immediately brought talent in for very little cost. They still haven't given up a pick for him, and might not ever give up a first. It is amazing value and something you do 100 times out of 100. I was a bit concerned about not being able to trade future firsts, but once I learned you can do the pick swaps that concern went away. After Cade, Stewart was the best draft pick of Weavers. I get that is a low bar. -
20234-24 14-68. Now what? (The 2024 Offseason thread)
Deleterious replied to Motor City Sonics's topic in Detroit Pistons
Stewart was such a good trade. Outside of Cade he might be the only other rotation player we have. Well, Fontecchio looks decent as well. -
Pass on both. Rumor was NO wanted to move off of Ingram. I hope Langdon was part of that group.
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I already answered most of this. Atkinson took a team that should have won 25 games and made the playoffs. I also like he has been on Kerr's bench since then. I don't know much about Quinn except he is highly respected and sits next to Spo. Hiring a first time HC is always a crap shoot.
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That doesn't seem like something you call the police about.
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The report yesterday was he wants a 4 year deal. But LAC was only offering 3 years at $150M. No clue how he turns that down, but OK.
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You don't lose over 80% of your games if you have talent. The Pistons added a guy who was the #7 pick, was cut in year 4, and nobody picked him up. Think about that. Every single contender in the league wants depth. Every team can sign a guy to a vets minimum. Nobody touched him. Duren and Ivey are not that level of bad, but Pistons fan really overrate them. Cleveland made a big jump the year they drafted Mobley and traded for Markkenan. Then they just flatlined, even after obtaining Mitchell. He hasn't molded anything. Garland is lazy and doesn't play D. Mitchell is a decent offensive player, but brutal on D. When Drummond was there, they tried to run the offense through him. Totally misuses Mobley. Not a lot of accountability for certain players. Actually, he does sound like a Pistons coach.
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I posted he ****ed a 15 year old. That has nothing to do with his basketball skills. And I'm not saying he is a star, just a better or at least equal to an overrated Caruso. Maybe they should have traded him at the deadline. But that has no bearing on this trade. Chicago did good for what Caruso is worth now.
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Yep. People are basing their reactions off of last years offers. Like Sam said, you pay more for two playoff runs than you do for one. Giddey is a top 3 pick in this draft easy. Bulls got good value and filled a need with a young player with potential. They did fine.
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20234-24 14-68. Now what? (The 2024 Offseason thread)
Deleterious replied to Motor City Sonics's topic in Detroit Pistons
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They were offered a top 10 pick this year for him. Giddey is better than that. They got a 21 year old starter for a 30 year old career backup. Big win for Chicago. Especially for a team that doesn't have a true distributor. And he was sat for his defense. He shot 35% from three in the playoffs, which is more than fine.