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Why would the Reds do this? 2.5 games out of the wildcard. Matt McLain in his 2nd season at 2nd. It needs to make sense for the other team...just not a trade that helps the Tigers.

Chicks dig the long ball.

I think Harris might add a bullpen arm but that's about it. I would like to see the Tigers go after Taylor Ward from the Angels. Not sure what they would need to give up, but he could slide into LF and Vierling slides back into a bench role, Carpenter can DH full time when he comes back.

Home runs pay the bills.

Trading prospects that most likely will end up just being another guy who struggles to hit or retire hitters isn't going for broke. You can think all those guys are going to be all-star stars but that isn't the way things work. Remember how Keith, Jung, and Malloy were supposed to all be studs? Two of those guys are going to be AAA players their career and the other is a below average hitter who will never get a lot of playing time because of atrocious defense. You have Skubal one more year, Greene, tork four more years, those are your 3 core players. Who knows how many more years of Carpenter you have left. They have Mize for another 2 years, not that he's super vital to the team. I'd prefer to see them add mlb players now and go for the championship as opposed to waiting and hoping those other guys turn out. And I'm not saying trade everybody in the farm system. But people get so excited about prospects just like people do about NFL draft picks. 90% of the time, they don't pan out

Everyone thinks all the Tigers prospects are going to be hall of famers or perennial all stars at worst. They have a chance at the world series this season. They need to take it because there is a good chance those guys will end up like all those amazing Baltimore Oriole prospects everyone on this board was gushing their pants over....remember Cowser, Herjstad, Mayo, etc. Remember the guys that were going to dominate? Maybe 1 of the Tigers top guys turns out to be above average or a star. Most of the pitchers are going to be Casey Mize-esque at best. The majority are going to be bench players or average players. Get mlb talent for them while they are worth something.

You really think he has the authority to make a trade without Ilitch's consent?

Why? Trout as DH would be better than 3 minor leaguers who will all be busts or below average mlbers. You guys don't want the Tigers to try to win the World Series by giving up guys that will probably end up sucking in the majors? Majix Beans.

I'll go big but I am sure pizza boy would never take on the contract and the Angels would probably never do the trade. Mike Trout for Jackson Jobe, Bryce Rainer, and another pitching prospect...maybe Melton? Maybe the angels would just laugh at it

Is Brent Rooker available? He just signed a 5 year, $60 million deal. Thats a great contract, considering they gave Alex Cobb $15 million. Probably not but I'd call them to find out

Colt Keith is worthless. He has no power, usually hits weak fly balls or ground outs and might be the worst fielder in the league. Definitely need an upgrade at DH.

There will probably never be another guy like Nolan Ryan ever. I guess, Randy Johnson and Roger Clemens were guys that could throw super hard for a long career and never were injured. And even though they were both much better pitchers than Ryan, they didn't have the freak arm that Ryan did. It might come down to just luck or training habits. I really don't know. Verlander until he was about 36 or 37 was extremely durable. If I was a young pitcher, I wouldn't want to pitch a bunch of innings either, hoping my arm would last until I could get a second contract. And teams don't want their guys getting injured, but what incentive do the Pirates have to protect Skenes? There is a 0% chance he stays with the Pirates once he becomes a FA. If they are in the playoffs, why wouldn't you pitch him as much as possible?

Dusty Baker destroyed Mark Prior's and Kerry Wood's careers. Some games those guys were throwing over 130 pitches a game at 22 and 23 years of age. Those two guys had the talent to be potential HOFers Dusty ruining those guy's careers is right up there with Billy Martin destroying his young starters on the A's and the most egregious destruction of a young pitcher, Davey Johnson, pitching Gooden almost 750 mlb innings by time he was 21. Johnson doesn't get nearly enough hate for what he did to Gooden when he was so young. Tarik Skubal has 699 career mlb innings and I would bet he has never thrown anywhere near 120 pitches a game.

I was just a real young kid, but I remember Billy Martin pitching young guys a ridiculous amount of innings, sometimes with 150 pitches a game. Those guys were washed up by time they were 26. Dusty Baker before there was Dusty Baker, ruining guy's careers.

Talk radio and junk like espn with the stupid talk shows where some d-bag throws out his opinion like it's 100% the truth is kind of like a message board...oops...wait...kind of like this except we don't get paid and most of us don't take ourselves seriously.

I agree with that. They usually just cut pay roll and get cheaper players. A main reason players leave teams like Detroit is because they won't spend money like the top half of the league. Pizza Boy isn't suddenly going to be throwing out money to people. They force the players to wear that stupid little Caesars pizza garbage when they hit a home run just to try to get some free publicity. Tacky and cheap.

This is a big reason why the Tigers could get rolled early in playoffs. Offense shut down by quality pitcher and Tigers starters give up runs early.

Why should they? The play should have been made and an out recorded. Pitching and fielding are separate.

I wonder if one of the Texas teams will throw a bunch of cash at him? Phillies? Ilitch isn't anything like Caesar. He's more like Nero or Elagabalus. Sorry for the historical references

I would almost think the Tigers won't even offer a contract to Skubal. They realize there is a 0% chance of his signing with Detroit. And if anything it will be a non-serious lowball offer When was the last time those big contracts actually worked out? The last 6 or 7 years of Cabrera were terrible. Trout's is looking horrible. Harper's is looking like a huge contract to an average 1st baseman. Guerrero's contract will be a disaster. It's not my money, so whatever.

Why would they be afraid of those guys reverting back to McKinstry and Baez? So basically they would revert back into a Trey Sweeney type of player?

That seems like a lot for a team to cough up for 1 year if Skubal. The Tigers couldn't get a package even close to that last year near the trade deadline and that would have been 2 and a half years of team control. And the team that is going to sign him as a FA would likely just wait until he is a FA.

Why does Trey Sweeney have a roster spot? Easily a bottom 3 shortstop in the league.

They better go all in now and pick up some arms and a few bats. Skubal will be gone soon.