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Not gonna happen for a variety of reasons, but Cody Stavenhagen's galaxy brain take on his podcast of bringing back Lorenzen to pitch in the bullpen and keeping Wentz makes a ton of sense.... Wentz had a bad outing obviously, but when the best performing parts of your bullpen are Trey Wingenter and the Rule 5 guy, it's clear that is where help is needed the most.

Understood.... my point is that I don't think anyone looks at Tyler Nevin as a "savior" for this club or will solve all the ills this team has, or that anyone is going to have additional "hope" because of him being called up. Looking at how most people regard this club nine games in, "hope" doesn't seem to be in anyone's vocabulary. But rather that at some point they need to be trying different options and that, if it keeps going in this direction, that oughtta be sooner rather than later.

Nick Castellanos

Nevin's dad didn't really pop until he was around 26 (and, naturally, after he left the Randy Smith Tigers lol). But that may be another case of it being a different time as well Either way, I don't think calling Nevin up (which will probably happen at some point anyway this season) is about "hope" more than it is a reflection of trying something different when things aren't going well. They are gonna give it more time before doing a major shakeup, but if Scott Harris is as advertised (versus Al), he isn't gonna wait for months like Al did last year on Kerry Carpenter, the changes will happen a little quicker.

Maybin and Jones are an upgrade from Morris IMO, at least from what I've heard. But they are more in role player capacities, at the end of the day Shep/Monroe are the ones that will drive opinion on the broadcast, I get it.

Obviously you're talking long term, but it's not like this team doesn't need prospective relievers at the moment....

Interesting thoughts... you could probably add Malcolm McDowell and maybe Keir Dullea to that list as well. Weird, disjointed movie careers post-Kubrick.

As much as Ryan O'Neal takes grief, his Barry Lyndon was pretty phenomenal

Yeah, it's about having a sample size to work with. Baseball has a long season; 10 games is basically the equivalent of one game in the NFL... teams in the NFL generally aren't written off one game into the season, or at least teams that aren't complete dumpster fires (which, tbf, the Tigers probably fit in this category for the MLB at the moment). And even good teams have stretches of terrible baseball, even where they can go below .500 during 10 game stretches. So yeah, others MMV, but I'm gonna keep my powder dry and watch some more baseball before concluding they are gonna lose 120 games.

Sure thing. But doesn't that kinda prove the point that it's kinda pointless to make this comparison anyway off of 9 games?

To provide a different example (not involving Tigers history), last year's Cincinnati Reds started 3-22 and managed to finish at exactly 100 losses. Kinda expect that to be a better comparison when it's all said and done, which is unacceptable regardless.

That owner let the team wither on the vine going into 2003. He deserves zero excuses.

Generally agree with you on all points, but on taxes, not sure Chicago comes out ahead against Detroit, let alone anywhere.

I'm aware.

You can be frustrated about the latter without being an ***hole.

Gotta be honest, parts of our online fanbase have really shown their *** since the announcement. At least online. The trade may not work out in the end, but it's not worth being so callous about the human beings involved.

Coming at this from someone who lives in a state that, like Tennessee, has been essentially a one-party state for years, and setting aside the obvious racism displayed by the TN House, it's also an example of how these legislatures in the south aren't used to actually having to deal with dissent. I've listened to the term "bubble dweller" for years in reference to more liberal constituencies, but there are no bigger bubble-dwellers in America than these GOP reps in Tennessee. The maps are drawn and the legislature is rigged to where the opposition party is completely irrelevant... not just having majorities, but veto-proof majorities that make dissent all-but-nonexistant. So, yeah, not shocking that they chose to have a temper tantrum after realizing that there are a bunch of people in places within their borders like Nashville, Memphis or Knoxville who don't just love whatever they do... it's probably been years since these guys have received pushback on anything.

Edman will set us straight I'm sure, but I was under the impression that Nevin was out of options

Setting aside the usual whining and crying about younger voters... Guess who would have won the WI Supreme Court Race if you took out Dane County?

In-****ing-sane

Probably Englert too tbh

I'd rather see Wingenter or Shreve in those situations, but even there those guys can't pitch every day. They are going to have to get leverage outings out of other guys.

Time to fire up the bus for Jose Cisnero

Turnbull getting really lucky today....

JAKE!!!!