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I'm open to the idea that he may be a little over his head at the moment (even though his peripherals this season suggest he's more real than not). But even so, if you have a guy like this who is controllable for six upcoming years and you feel reasonably confident can be a part of a winning ballclub within that time frame, the price for a trade needs to be pegged accordingly. Otherwise, as Chas asks, what are we doing here?

When they built the street, they should have installed it with one door that locks on the outside....

I can see Michael Fulmer as a trade piece as he is hits free agency in 2023, but trading Alex Lange, who is one of the best relievers in baseball right now? Who is under control for the next six years? The bird in the hand for the next six years is more likely than not gonna be worth more than what you get in return. Especially with Al doing the trades.

The price for Lange needs to be really, really high. He's controllable through 2028, and he's basically the heir apparent for the closer role. The others, I don't care as much, but I can see them not delivering enough of a return for Lange given his age and talent.

Except Lange.

I'm guessing Harold plays a lot of 3B if Candy goes on the IL In terms of the spot, Brendon Davis is on the 40 man...I don't know if he's next man up, but it's either him or Short who likely come up if Candy goes on IL one would think

Has there been any word on Candelario and whether this turns into an IL stint? Could end up being the Kody Clemens/Brendon Davis show at 3B lol

Fair point. Either way, point still stands... hard to make macro declarations in the heat of a series like this one.

And yet that could still result in more than 77 wins.

This is all fair, even if we may disagree at points. My only point is that it's hard to make declarative statements about the season or where they may fall in terms of wins and losses purely on the basis of playing the hottest team in baseball who now holds a 39-15 record. Just feels like people are treating the Yankees like they are chopped liver... the Tigers would have been lucky to win 2 out of 3 with how they are playing. Doesn't mean that I'm happy with the level of play, particularly offensively, but let's have some perspective at least

I'm sure I'll be laughed out of the thread for suggesting this, but I think this can still be a 77 win team or better... as bad as the last three games have been, it's still come against a team that is the best and hottest in baseball, who now has a 39-15 record. Now that the Yankees and Dodgers are off the schedule, they won't face a tougher team for the remainder of the year. The pitching has largely held up and will likely continue to hold the ship to some extent, especially as guys like ERod and Pineda come back. But it really comes down to the offense playing up to career averages. They largely have not thus far.

This one really sucks...if they walk out of New York with a win, they basically meet expectations going against a team as good as the Yankees They had a chance but the defense just collapsed. Six outs to win a ballgame, the bullpen did its part, but the defense failed. Obviously wished they would have done more in the 10th offensively, but the game felt lost after they allowed NY to score without a single hit in the 8th

Lol, he'll never get the money he's currentlu owed if he plays like this

When your offense is as bad as there's, it basically forces pitching and defense to get perfect to win. And today, the defense fell short Pretty simple really

Miggy!

Yes

We ride him hard, but glad to see him come up with one!

Terrible lol

He definitely should survive the initial round of optioning associated with Meadows coming back

Has Suzyn Waldman called Rony Garcia a AA scrub yet?

Morning baseball and the Tigers offense... ample excuse to drink early and often lol

Fortune favors the bold.... W

A publication called "RedState" calling someone who doesn't agree with its POV liberal? That's about as shocking as the Tigers scoring zero runs today

The Yankees TV broadcast isn't quite as bad, especially with David Cone elevated, he's pretty fair. But yeah, the Yankees oriented media have this tendency to act like the Yankees are entitled to at least 5 runs against pitchers that aren't big names or they haven't heard of and it's sort of ridiculous. Some of it is the Yankees stature, but tbh, some of it is laziness as well... maybe I'm spoiled by Dan Dickerson, but maybe do a little research before the next opponent comes to town... Beau Brieske isn't the best pitcher, but by virtue of what he has shown in the bigs to date, he clearly doesn't belong in AA either.

Play Cameron and Hill in the outfield every single game. Since they are so shorthanded, platoon Clemens and W.Castro. It's not that hard, but Willi's BABIPfest that ended 2+ weeks ago seems to have folks convinced that his bat is useful enough to ignore his inability to play the outfield. I just don't agree.... and looking between the lines, it's pretty clear that it's not happening game after game purely out of desperation. Ill gladly eat crow when Meadows and Greene end up elevated and W.Castro is demoted or not playing outfield. But I'll believe it when I see it.