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I'd be thrilled to see Stroman in a Tigers uniform.

Its a bit of an overpay on years, but in this market, there wasn't a chance they wouldn't overpay on years with any of these guys. I can live with it... hope he looks more like the guy in New York than in Chicago next year. I do think they still need to get another pitcher as well.... Stavenhagen mentioned them talking to Andrew Chafin for the BP, but they also probably need a lower level starter as well.

Assuming this deal is completed, people are gonna whiplash from being mad at the Tigers for not doing anything to being mad that they only signed Javy Baez. Who is still a really good ballplayer and isn't Ryan Kreidler, Paul DeJong, etc.

The Yankees definitely have the ability to spend that kinda money... but they have to want to spend the money as well. That doesn't seem clear at the moment, though obviously that can change in time

Either Javy is gonna wait till the other side of the CBA or he may not end up staying a Met

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mlive.com/tigers/2021/11/tigers-gm-on-shortstop-pursuit-one-big-splash-does-not-win-you-the-offseason.html%3foutputType=amp From six days ago: "But Avila said he doesn’t look at Dec. 1 as a deadline or feel any added pressure to get something done before that date. “If you do things hastily, sometimes they don’t turn out the best way,” he said. “I think we’re doing it as business as usual. We’re talking to agents, we’re talking to other clubs. We’ll continue to work until they tell me differently. “I don’t think the quote-unquote looming deadline is going to establish the market. I think the market establishes itself like it does every year. And it develops as time goes along. You see some guys signing a little bit earlier, and there’s going to be some guys that are going to wait a little bit longer. Every year is different.” Missed it at the time, but it explains a lot

I'm not even saying get DeJong! They can look on the trade market for someone else too lol. My only point is that this is their biggest position of need coming into this offseason, and handing the keys over to an promising, but unproven prospect (who isn't a Top 10 prospect like Tork/Greene) when the stated goal is to get better and compete is gonna seem like a failure to me. So yeah, I'd like to see them go outside the org if it comes to that. They did it with Barnhart, they should do it in this hypothetical as well

Forgive me if I'm not confident that Kreidler has a .700 OPS in his first year in the league

Depends a lot on the kids, particularly the pitchers. But yeah, without a SS, my goal gets lowered from 85 wins/periphery of WC contention to 81-81.

This franchise is technically overpaying their new catcher, but it filled a need with a competent major leaguer. If they don't, at a minimum, do something similar at their position of biggest need coming into the offseason, yeah, we'd all be right to be pissed. As for Ryan Kreidler, let him have a few more months in Toledo before throwing him to the wolves.

So rolling Kreidler out there when he hasn't proven himself ready is a-OK?

If two guaranteed years at $4m/year is too rich for this franchise, then why are we even talking about Trevor Story or Carlos Correa?

So, are teams finished at this point? There's a lull in the madness

The fact that he thinks riding with Kreidler in 2022 is acceptable seems nuts to me.... If they fail to get one of the three big names, they should go get a Paul DeJong or someone else on trade. Just seems risky and bound to fail to send Kreidler out there on day one. I'll still be pissed either way. But at least it won't be gross negligence.

There's been so much focus on money with Correa, but I wonder if part of the strategy (to the extent one exists) is to bring down his ask on years. Stavenhagen was talking some about this on his podcast this week.... you want a guy like that on your team, but the difference between making that commitment for 10 years is different than, say, 8. After the Seager signing, that seems unlikely... just trying to understand the thinking

Semien and Matz were too generous on years. Possibly Ray as well.

He's wrong a lot. Just think people ascribe more weight to his work than is deserved. He seems to spend more time retweeting political posts than sports

Does Lynn have any relationship with the FO, or is he a semi-retired writer swilling on wine with his Twitter machine at his vacation home?

What an idiot.

There's a real cognitive dissonance between people's "Correa or bust" stance and the fact that Correa is highly unlikely to sign before the CBA Expires as well.

Somebody's a little defensive lol

JFC

I definitely tend to believe they are in the trade market if they fail to get one of the big ones. There are options, although they'd all be pretty disappointing in comparison

In general, the focus has so much been on the $300 million figure and less on the years... but I think the amount of time is a factor in their retrenchment on Baez/Story