Sports_Freak

When they say #1 prospect, do they mean in the Yankees organization or all of baseball?

A debate between a former prosecutor and a current felon would be Must See TV. I hope there's enough popcorn! 🤣

Harris would eat him up with real facts. The way I was hoping Biden would have.

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I was watching Hall of Fame speeches but saw Kelly's <almost> him run. Was there other robberies?

Another Grand Slam...yee-haw!

Only an idiot would put a runner on base.

Bean him! Lol

Nope, it's already been determined that Harris is blameless. Talk about ignorant.

With his injury history, he's probably on an innings limit this season. Probably be shut down by September. In other news, he was part of a combined no-hitter in his last start.

Lol....no worries. One of them is on my ignore list now. I don't tolerate personal attacks. I can have a rational discussion with anyone who wants to express an opinion. Even if I don't agree with it. 😄

Yeah, he sounds like a cancer. And I did mention that Avila was the one who gave him that contract. But wasn't he going to be a FA whether we traded him or not? If so, he would have gotten more money pitching for LA (a playoff team) if he did well. I do remember talk of not buying out his no trade clause. My only point I've been trying to make is that Harris knew about his contract for months. When talking multimillion dollar deals, terms need to be in writing. If ERod agreed to be traded, get his signature and leave no doubt about it. To say the whole mess is ERods fault says Harris is faultless. And, like I've been trying to say, the buck stops at the top.

I heard that at the time but I never heard it mentioned by people in the know. Only on a sports message board. My only point is it should have been agreed to in advance, in writing, to protect both parties. And I would also like to think Harris learned an important lesson from it. I really dislike those multi-million dollar contracts with no trade clauses. As much as I would love to say it's all ERods fault, the big boss should take responsibility. Like we said, the player is/was an airhead who really couldn't be trusted to keep his word.

Dude, relax. OK, you're right. Harris is totally blameless. It's all ERod's fault. Harris got him to agree to the trade and ERod screwed him over. The buck no longer stops at the top. I would say the original blame goes to the guy who gave him a no trade clause to begin with but I worry that would set you off again. Feel better?

I saw an interview with him and Sean Casey. Casey said when he first got here, Leyland went over a sign with him. Told him the sign to steal a base...lol. Pure Leyland, making a joke to put a player at ease. I remember he told a rookie pitcher, who was making his first start, that if he had family coming to watch him to get there early because he may nor be in there for long...lol

I'm starting to think you don't know the meaning of gaslighting. Look it up. I think you'll be surprised. 😆

Everyone knows? Wow, a page out of a politicians book. Everyone...lol

Today is the day Leyland gives his Hall of Fame speech. I'm sure it will get emotional for him and many of his fans. (Except in Colorado? 😆). It's on the MLB Network at 1:30. It should be good. Over and under in Leyland tears? I say in less than 5 minutes...lol

No, I'm not. Was ERod at fault? Probably. But this is MLB, these players have contracts, in writing. It said...no trade. You wanna trade him? Change the contract. Pay him off, if need be. Harris is NOT blameless in this deal. Maybe he learned a lesson from it, who knows? But yeah, I'm glad the Tigers let him walk. The guy is a knucklehead. The fact that the Tigers gave him all that time off for "personal reasons" and paid him millions of dollars should have gotten a little loyalty from him. But I keep going back to that contract, in writing, about no trades. Harris knew about it for months and he's the GM. The buck stops at the top and no matter what spin is put on it, he was the one responsible for moving him.

I've heard this but Harris is a professional. Get an agreement in writing and then shop the player. Hearing this excuse afterward just sounds like...an excuse. "Hey, it's not MY fault, it's HIS fault." Yeah, I don't buy it. If there was "an agreed upon deal", Harris should have had it in writing. This excuse really sounds like spin control. Gaslighting...

IMO, Harris is going about rebuilding the Tigers the right way, building up the minor league talent level. He needs to stay the course. Don't trade prospects, good prospects, for rentals. However, when he has talented players, he needs to do everything he can to keep them. It's why I'm against trading away talented players like Skubal. Yes, he would probably get some blue chip prospects in return but we all saw what happens when established stars are traded for "can't miss" prospects. I don't totally blame Avila, he relied on scouts opinions and I would assume he was under orders to cut payroll. A fire sale usually doesn't work out for baseball teams. But when the talk turns to ERod, the blame falls squarely on Harris. He knew for months the contract had a no-trade clause. It should have been worked out with the player before even shopping him around. Harris has mostly been a fine GM and calling out his mistakes isn't a bad thing, just like calling out his good moves doesn't make him perfect. So far, his good moves outnumber his mistakes. Should Tiger fans be nervous about trade talks with Baltimore? After all, Nick Maton is in their system...🤣🤣

This is his 2nd deadline chance. Remember his attempt to move ERod?

I agree. And there's always the waiver wire.

This thread almost over. Training camp starts this week!!! 😅😅