Sports_Freak

Turnbull, Boyd, Mize and Manning. I'm starting to see a trend. Go ahead, call up some more young starting pitchers, I double dare you.

Got a stack of line-ups already filled out...lol

Maybe the Tigers can get a deal on TJ surgery for Manning and Mize. 2 for 1. 😁

I mostly agree but are all the injuries to pitchers caused by limiting them early in their careers? The Tigers were careful with Mize and Manning last season and they're still injured. How did that work out for them? Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

They weren't a good defensive team last year.

Jimmy on 420...lol

Those conditions were brutal. Final score 4-2? It looked like it was going to be a 9-7 game, more. Personally, I'm not making any judgements on any players under those conditions. The home plate umpire? That's a different story. Anything that didn't bounce to the plate was a strike for any Yankee pitcher. Tiger pitchers? If the Yankess didn't swing, it was a ball. And yes, I exaggerate.

Bases are stolen off the pitcher, many times.

Hopefully, neither are hurt. It just seems like everytime a pitcher comes our of a game with a bad arm, it leads TJ surgery. The worst part is when teams wait 2 or 3 months. I would think Manning will be OK, but we'll see.

Hopefully, all the check swing calls go our way...lol

No, he blew his arm out practicing. 🤣🤣

Matthew Boyd and Spencer Turnbull both say hi.

He missed the rest of the season. And the next season. When a pitcher comes out with a sore arm or shoulder, it's never a good thing. It doesn’t....just go away;

Not me. We're hoping to score runs. It's only April and there is a very real possibility we've lost 2 young starting pitchers. Over-reaction? No, a realist. I still have a JV tweet when he got hurt. He assured fans it was nothing and he would be back in a week or so. That was over a year ago. And like I said, you can't win the division in April. But you can lose it. Without Manning and Mize, this could easily be a 100 loss team. Sometimes reality sucks.

A couple of points...real baseball fans know win-loss record is a meaningless stat. The other thing is service time. When these guys miss a year and a half, they should pause their service time.

The kickoff and punt camera angles are horrible. You can't even tell where they're at on the field. I like the classic look much better.

Have the Panthers been using Lions film? How horrible. Get Patterson out of there.

I really think the way it will go is starters being limited even more. 3 or 4 inning starts. 60 pitch limit. Maybe going back to a 4 man rotation and using some starters in the BP. Teams with the stronger bullpen already have a huge advantage. Remember several years ago when the Royals had a shut down BP? They shortened the game to 6 innings. If they had the lead, the other team was in trouble.

So it may be the stress of throwing certain pitches over and over that raises injury risk? That makes sense. Give me a staff of knuckle ball pitchers, those guys can throw 150 pitches...lol.

Les Cain says hello....lol

It's conditioning your body to go deeper into games. When a body becomes fatigued, chances of injury goes way up. It's why the Tigers were being so careful with Mize, Manning and Skubal last season. Now, 2 of them are injured. Maybe babying them backfired? Or they were bound to eventually get hurt? No way to know but hopefully we don't start seeing all SP limited even more. 50 pitches or 4 innings? It's happening right before our eyes.

6 game home stand, weather permitting, to get 5 hits...I agree.

I don't agree. You always hear about sending a RP down to stretch him out. So he doesn't get injured. His arm/body as a RP is used to going 50 pitches or so (in long relief) but they need him to go deeper. Same with a closer, you don't want to see him throw 30-35 pitches because he'll end up hurt. I saw some talking heads on MLB TV saying quality starting pitching isn't as important as a solid BP because the bullpen will be deciding a majority of the games. Having SP go 7 innings/110 pitches a game 30 to 32 times a season may be a thing of the past fairly soon. Heck, I remember when SP had no pitch count and pitched every 4th day.

Limiting pitchers pitch count conditioned them to be unable to safely go over 100 pitches without risking injury. Once their arm gets fatigued, it puts stress on them to throw more pitches. Are we about to start an era of SP only going 3 or 4 innings? 60 pitch limits? Or maybe we could have these pitchers actually have a minor league career and condition their bodies to go deeper into games? It seems like the more they limit these pitchers, the more they get hurt.

Opening Day game on a weather delay? It must be lightning because big bad football players never mind a little rain...lol