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The point I have been making here is that I just don’t see the kind of antisemitism from the left that justifies the inference, or even statement, that the left is just as antisemitic as the right in the wake of Gaza. So when you posted the article about Fetterman saying Israel has the right to remove Hamas, I was looking for criticism from antisemitic leftists based on antisemitic reasons, because I thought you were showing me the thing I was looking for. But if the article doesn’t have any of that, and you want me to contemplate something else related, then I think you need to be clearer about how it relates to my point.
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At least we have a World Series champion that outscored their opponents during the regular season, although we’ll be denied the fun of being outraged by a playoff pool so deep that it allowed a World Series champion that was outscored by their opponents during the regular season to make the playoffs in the first place.
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I always want to see series go the max number of games, with the tying run coming to the plate in the ninth inning of the final game.
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I have to admit that I mis-saw the video as a group of Palestinian protesters confronting a pro-Israeli group, but now it is clear to me that it is a mob of people surrounding a single guy. My apologies for that confusion. What we still don't know is what instigated the confrontation, since we see it in full flower as the video starts, and it appears there may be some question as to whether it takes place at Harvard at all. My point that we still don't know that the mob of people are of the left who are animated by antisemitism as part of their being still stands, although if they do consider themselves on the left and they hate Jews, I'd be interested in what else it is they believe and don't believe as part of their ideology?
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That seems like a reasonable statement, but what are the definitions of antisemitism that do not entail hatred of Jews? Would, for instance, disagreeing with the policies of the state of Israel attended to their military actions toward Gaza be considered antisemitic?
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If you mean the Harvard example, I don't view the "mob" (not sure what else to call them given precedent) to be confronting the pro-Israeli group because they're Jewish. I view them to be confronting the pro-Israeli group because they are actively marching in support of Israel's current military policy in Gaza. Presumably, the "mob" sees pro-Israel demonstrations not as a mere affirmation of Jewish pride, but as a sanctioning of the mortal threat to their countrymen still stuck in Gaza. Now, were the same "mob" to go through one of the Harvard libraries confronting Jewish kids who are just sitting there studying and doing nothing else, then I would definitely see your point about traits.
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Denial of antisemitic feelings among people on the left is a pretty high bar, since it only takes finding it within a single person on the left to prove there is. I'm just asking for any credible specific example of who on the left acts out of a motivation of hatred of Jews. This is not me daring you to find one because I know there isn't one, or anything even close to that. This is me asking because I simply can't retrieve one from either the my memory bank or the Internet hole. As others have suggested, the Harvard example in the TwiX appeared to be an assumption that the "mob" must be leftist because it took place at Harvard.
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Please help me understand which part of the article stipulates that the blowback Fetterman faced from leftists was motivated by antisemitism, because I can't locate that idea within it.
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My apologies for pushing back on this, but can you provide any other examples of what you mean? I'm hearing many people, not just you, across many platforms referring in general to leftist-based antisemitism, as though it's clear and obvious and everyone knows exactly what they mean, but I've seen literally no one point to any incidents and say here, this is what I mean. At least outside of the Cornell incident, and I think you and I both agree that the guy's leanings are still unclear.
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He might be of the left, but I don't know that it is a pretty good possibility. The guy might be a radical right-winger, and radical right-wingers can show up anywhere, even here in Big Shoulders, the right's platonic ideal of a leftist communist socialist hellhole, yet 17% of voters here went Trump in 2020. Location alone is not evidence. I'm skeptical of the implication that because someone lives in a city or goes to a college, that constitutes de facto evidence that they must be of the left, and that if an incident of antisemitism is present, then by extension, that means the left is just as antisemitic as the right. I won't buy that until I see something more concrete than, it happened at a college.
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I just looked it up and saw. Is he of the left?
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Honest question, has it been established who it is making threats to the Cornell Jewish community? What little I have seen of the story has said the threats are anonymous. Has anyone been identified?
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I prefer slash lines over bottom line OPS numbers. A guy who slashes .320/.400/.400 is not the same kind of hitter as a guy who slashes .250/.300/.500, and showing just OPS hides that by making them look the same.
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I’m basically with you on the scourge of gambling rotting the soul of the game, although pleasing the gamblers and the sponsors that cater to them would strike me as meaning more games to gamble on, not fewer to avoid weather. To your broader weather point: most of us won’t live to see this, but I can imagine that every northern stadium that eventually gets replaced from now on will be a retractable dome so as to make weather a non-issue, even in Chicago and Boston when they finally replace those iconic stadia however many decades from now. if they build them the right way so as to let sufficient natural light in from all angles, and can open both roof and side panels to let in outside air and breezes when it is nice enough to, people would forget all about whatever charm there was in being in the total open air for game. I can tell you from experience that nobody in Milwaukee misses County Stadium and pines for those 35-degree April games. At some point, perhaps by the beginning of next century, all the people who remember being in open-air stadia will be dead, and the entire open-air-stadium era will be regarded as an unfortunate pre-technological limitation.
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He might be one of those guys who, when a team signs him for that kind of dough, their research tells them they can recoup it all, and then some, in extra tickets/concessions sold, increased road gate share, merch sales, and playoff revenue. That’s basically what’s going to make Shohei worth $50 million a year.
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God truly help us all if she’s Attorney General two years from now.
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Right. It’s not as though Fox is an actual journalistic organization and is going to issue a retraction, or anything like that.
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Lock her up.
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Meanwhile, the people of Sioux Falls responded with, “Oh my god! He said our city name! Trump knows who we are! He really does love us! MAGA!!”
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That’s because you don’t see apologizing as a weakness.
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No doubt. The non-apology was a part of a move that people can learn from.
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I didn't intend to touch a nerve. I have never regarded mere opposition to Israeli government policies as being antisemitic, and I have never known of any liberals who hate Jews and want to marginalize, persecute, or genocide them, as some right-wing extremist groups might. That was really the only point I was trying to make. Do the DSA (whom I'd honestly never heard of before today) hate Jews? If they do, then I imagine they would agree with the Times of Israel's characterization that they ''support [the October 7] Palestinian terror onslaught against Israelis." That would be the first time I'd heard of any American mainstream political organization (which I would assume this is one) supporting terrorist murder, which would be honestly surprising to me. But then, like I say, I've traditionally not been animated by Middle East issues and so i don't follow the particulars as closely as some might. I do recognize that this is a minefield topic, though, and it's really hard to tread any objective ground on it.
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I don't think of anti-Israel (the country) and antisemitism (the people) as being the same, although Jewish people themselves might be inclined to dispute that. In any event, I don't even know what elements of the left would hate Jews in the way certain types of right-wingers would. Deep Jewish involvement itself is woven into the fabric of the left wing, so anyone who claims to be part of the left and would also support persecution or at least marginalization of Jews within society makes me believe they are actually right-wingers in left-wing clothing, the way Soviet Russians were.