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Just testing to see if "****wad" still passes ... 😅 EDIT: Nope, it sure doesn't ... 🤣🤣

Soto was simply not a great asset to trade. He may have been our closer, beloved by some, but he was The Little Girl Who Had a Little Curl who has been slotted in as the #5 guy in their bullpen—that’s 5 with an “f”—so I think expecting championship linchpins in return would have been excessive. If we get a few years of two guys who can start and be moderately effective, even if they don’t make it all the way to the first playoff year, I think we will have won that trade.

I just think there's at least a 50-50 chance you'll hate the new guy even worse.

Maybe, but hardly any of them strikes me as having the kind of pedigree and track record that suggests they are building blocks for perennial contender. I could say two do for sure, and there are some fans who would like to run both of them down I-75 right now.

I like George Lombard and I can see him becoming manager of the team when A.J. gets moved to GM. But remember also that George was brought here by A.J. and he’s cut from the same cloth as A.J., so if you show A.J. the gate, expect a lot of the very same thing you’re hating right now.

Do you agree with that, bobrob? 😁

Are every one of those guys considered the future? I know two of them are. You could make an argument for the third.

Remember when the Nielsen rating for their broadcasts was reported to be 0.0? Ah, those were the days …

A.J. Hinch gets fired today. Who do you want to replace him?

Right. The idea is, put Foley in until he gets in trouble. If he never does, he finishes the inning and Lange starts the ninth. If he gives up a runner, or two as you suggest, then Lange comes in. Regardless of what the line of trouble is, point is, if Foley can handle the job, we don't burn the Lange option completely before the ninth, when he is most needed.

If Hinch just up and quit, it definitely would be.

Also, there is zero chance A.J. Hinch gets fired this season.

Maybe he wanted to see whether Wingenter is a guy you can trust in that kind of high leverage situation, although that's a lot more defensible as a move that failed this time if the team is 5-5 versus if a team is 2-8 and on a five-game L streak.

That's a fair point about who was due up. Maybe Foley pitches until a guy gets on base, and if so, bring in Lange to try to shut the barn door?

Alex's post gets me thinking: I wonder how much Miggy influences the team, their levels of concentration and effort, and their relationship with the manager and coaches? I'm not suggesting anything concrete, but I gotta believe that a slam-dunk Hall of Fame elder on any team has got to have a tremendous influence on the other guys, particularly the young guys. I don't have any real feel for whether the rest of the team would be any better, any worse, or the exact same were Miggy not on the team.

It’s true, this should be done in spring training, although it takes longer than just a few weeks and also exposing guys to games that matter to see what it is we really got.

I have a feeling that once Miggy retires, Detroit will be firmly in his rearview mirror, and he will contemplate us only once more.

Thank you for this, but there’s more. Beyond just not being able to make chicken salad out of chicken **** on trades, as well as an owner who is just now waking up to the effect his baseball business unit is having on his entire enterprise, there’s also the fact that Scott Harris couldn’t simply sign an impact player or two as though he could just go to Walmart and pick them up off the shelf. Players are sentient human beings who have a say in where they sign, and no decent player would have chosen to come to Detroit and lose big, instead because of going literally anyplace else and winning, or at least losing less. The sad fact is that Al Avila’s Reign of Error basically destroyed this franchise, and it’s going to take probably half a decade to get it on its feet and start to contend. And I know a lot of fans refuse to believe this, but we’re going to have to do it without being a team that impact free agents are willing to sign up to play for, or being able to make good trades due to our lack of organizational depth, for at least two years.

I really like this idea and will wish upon a star until it happens.

I think it’s fair for Hinch to try different guys in different situations early in a season to see who can do what, particularly when you have a roster that is basically turned over from the previous year. But he definitely should have saved Lange for the ninth for this game, because we really needed to win this game. And every game until we win again will also be this game.

Holy shit, Matt Vierling, trying to steal a base and going in standing up so you can get tagged out? What the everloving fuck … ??

Umpires 1, Tigers 1, Blue Jays 0.

OK, E-Rod, we got you your run. It’s all on you now.

I wasn't. I thought we gave up too much. But I also thought it was better that we got someone to start on the big league club than to keep Paredes languishing away in Toledo.

It was known back way back when.