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Good luck getting good young people to want to take that up as their life’s work.

I think this is close. I believe the truth is even more direct: they simply didn’t want him around anymore.

Russ doesn't seem to mind the report, so far at least ...

Cool! Hey, while you're at it, maybe you can swerve toward jaywalkers in the street to keep them out of your way, too? Also, maybe tackle people at the store and detain them if you think they're shoplifting? How about citizen-arresting people smoking only 12 feet from a building entrance instead of the mandated 15? The potential for effective vigilantism seems endless ... 😉

Face-saving gesture? Help Jeimer in the marketplace as a favor? Or maybe because if they appear to be dismissing him with prejudice in a public way, that creates a story that media people might be tempted—or worse, obligated—to follow up on. Who knows? But the Tigers do look like good guys for making him even a half-assed offer, and Jeimer looks like a guy worth making an offer to, so the media can accept it all and move on from the story. It is not dissimilar to the offer we made to Correa last year—what was the point of making Correa an offer that everyone knew he wouldn't accept? Maybe the reasons were different with Correa then than with Jeimer today, but point is, that kind of thing is done.

Right, although I also believe that Detroit beat writers are especially willing to cover up clubhouse drama for the sake of appearances, on behalf of the organization in general.

I continue to maintain that if we're talking only about Jeimer's projected performance, absent any other market consideration, that is well worth the $7 million. That said, I will shelve this hobby horse if Harris obtains a third baseman who is projected to do better than Jeimer, and I don't care at what price. I'm interested only in the production.

Exactly ... FTFY, too ... 😁

This wasn't a critique of your source, but rather a joke about how many folks wouldn't accept any mainstream journalistic outlet as a source.

There's something to this.

If he puts up a four-win season on 2023, thus proving he can do so on a reasonably consistent basis, I bet someone will give him $50 million, if not four years. It definitely won't be us.

Depends on how you define mediocre. How would you define it?

I believe the concept is not that of overall roster value of a win above replacement, but one of the marginal value of a win above replacement added through free agent signing. https://blogs.fangraphs.com/what-are-teams-paying-per-war-in-free-agency/ This is probably closer to a 101 on the topic: https://blogs.fangraphs.com/is-the-cost-of-a-win-in-free-agency-still-linear/

I agree with this. I don't think anyone has suggested anything along these lines here, but beyond dumping Jeimer because of some hidden injury issue, or to appease fans, it's also possible that Jeimer is a clubhouse cancer. Maybe the other guys hate him, or he's a factionalizer, or he's uncoachable, or it's just an oil-and-water personality situation, and the organization decided they simply couldn't deal with him anymore. This is a baseless speculation which if true we would probably never see reported, especially by Detroit beat media, under the principle that this kind of thing stays in the clubhouse. But we all know there are players like that, and it's certainly well within the range of possibilities. I'm definitely not saying I believe this is why he was non-tendered. I'm just offering up another possible reason that hadn't come up yet for consideration. OK, so, if this is true, why would anyone sign Jeimer? Why would Washington throw five million plus incentives at him if he's such a bad guy? Well, maybe it's because they think he can fix his clubhouse issues. Or maybe they think their coaches will mesh better with him than ours did. Maybe they want the production and don't care about his clubhouse persona, or perhaps they don't even know about his clubhouse issues at all because the story of that has been so well-hidden. Could be a bunch of reasons. But just because he got signed at all doesn't de facto disprove the baseless speculation. The one thing I am pretty sure of is that the Tigers simply didn't want Jeimer around anymore, at any price, including the one they offered him and knew he would never accept.

I don't believe that's necessarily true as stated. I don't think that they believe his value is objectively less than seven million. I would counter that, if they believe he is better than a one-win player, then they know that level of production is worth seven million, at least. But we also know that markets are about more than simply an objective measure of worth—it's also about the perception of the asset as a whole, and the perception of Jeimer is that he is damaged goods, in part because of last year's anomalous output, one who will accept less than what his expected production is objectively worth. It's why he's regarded as a buy-low bet with high upside potential, versus someone playing out a string who's got maybe one year of 140+ games left in him.

Whatever the Tigers offered him—let's pretend for this post that it was half of his projected arb—is fair market value only if they believe he is going to be worth only half a win above replacement in 2023. And if that's the case, were the Tigers perfectly fine with running a half-a-win player out there all year, just because the price was right? is that all they want out of third base? I have my doubts about that. I think that, for whatever reason, they felt they just needed to be rid of Candelario altogether, regardless of what his projected production was going to be. That suggests to me that the decision was about something other than his expected performance.

Anyone willing to admit they're rooting for an injury here, too? 😅

"No no no no ... where is the actual proof?" 😉

Hooray for vigilantes!

Maybe, although I don't believe that just because that no one around him can say no to him is de facto evidence that he is a mental illness-free asshole. To be clear, I do not believe that claims to mental illness gives anyone a license to freely be an asshole in public. The public needs to be defended against assholes, regardless of the reasons why in the first place.

A lot of mental illness manifests itself in assholery. We might even be able to make a case that being an unrepentant asshole is in itself a sign of mental illness to some degree, in that someone engaging in asshole behavior either refuses to change in the face of overwhelming evidence that it’s a social liability, or they recognize its liability but can’t control their behavior before the fact. I can’t think of many people who understand that being an asshole is a problem but who engage in it with aforethought for strategic advantage—which in itself maybe be signs of sociopathic tendency. I don’t know if I buy this line of argument, because it is interesting to contemplate.

Which is kind of worrisome because Americans want desperately to elect conservatives, because we are at our core a religious country. If the RNC can figure out how to clean up their fascist candidates and keep them from acting out during campaigns, convincing them to wait to do so until they actually get elected in majority numbers, we’d be goners.

Especially since the current practice is to Driveline pitchers in an effort to squeeze every last MPH out of their arms.

I would like to see a young pitcher be better than basically worst in the league, and I don't think that's asking so much. Perhaps you are expecting too little, understandable given our recent history as Tiger fans.

I can see that Brieske's not a finished product, although I don't see any ascending going on just yet. He's pretty much at the bottom and although there is certainly someplace he can go rather than up, up is the only place he can go and still hope to keep a job, at least in North America.