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Do you know this? Or are you just saying?

Voyager I launched on September 5, 1977 at 7:56 AM CDT. The story says it has traveled 15,800,000,000 miles since then. So, I wanted to calculate how many miles per hours Voyager has averaged since then. Here's how Google Gemini breaks it down after a search: ****** Me: how many hours has it been since September 5, 1977 at 7:56 AM CDT Gemini: As of December 12, 2025, at 7:56 AM CDT, it has been approximately 418,013 hours since September 5, 1977, at 7:56 AM CDT, which is exactly 48 years, 3 months, and 7 days (or about 17,417 days) of continuous time. Here's the breakdown: Years: 2025 - 1977 = 48 years. Days in 48 Years (including leap years): 48 years * 365 days/year + 12 leap days (1980, '84, '88, '92, '96, 2000, '04, '08, '12, '16, '20, '24) = 17520 + 12 = 17,532 days. Days from Sept 5 to Dec 12: September (25 days left) + October (31) + November (30) + December (12) = 98 days. Total Days: 17,532 + 98 = 17,630 days. Total Hours: 17,630 days * 24 hours/day = 423,120 hours. Note: This calculation accounts for all full years and days, and since the start and end times are the same (7:56 AM), the calculation is straightforward. Using a precise date calculator confirms this duration ***** So, it's been approximately 418,013 hours, which is exactly 17,417 days, or, in other words, precisely 423,120 hours, which calculates out to 17,630 days. Something like that. So the average speed since then is 37,342 miles per hour. Or 37,798 miles per hour. Something like that. Although, according to Gemini: ***** Me: how many miles is one light day, use commas and not exponents Gemini: One light-day is approximately 16,094,455,343 miles. This is often rounded to about 16.1 billion miles. ***** Approximately. Or 15,800,000,000 miles. Something like that.

Freaks and Geeks did that.

If this is true, then it is also true that if it weren't for Randy Smith, the Tigers would not have won the 2006 American League pennant.

As long as his thumbprint is on the organization, yeah.

Solid joke!

You’re serious about Skubal, but I don’t know whether that would do it. They’d be trading one six-win player for another, and then that another would be gone in a year. I guess it’s possible they make a deal like that, but it would be fairly directionless. Anyone trading for Skubal would do so to put them over the top in November, and the Mets don’t seem to be there.

All due respect, why are you even trying? Save your serious discussion for people on the other side of the aisle who don't troll you.

You seem surprised?

Look, rebuilding for a couple years is one thing, but I could not possibly disagree more with the idea that tanking a team and losing 100-ish games each season for years on end in order to get a shot at a fifth overall pick is the way to become a winner eventually. There are numerous franchises that are winning right now that have never had to do that, and in fact, that is not how we ourselves have gone to the playoffs in the past couple of years. We'll have to just leave it there and just disagree on it.

Eastern team, superstar hitters in the clubhouse, recent ring.

Well, also Jahmai Jones. But this is meant as, we can win with only the Harris guys we got, obviously not true. I mean it more as proof of concept for the type of hitter the Harris team is going after. It will include McGonigle and Max Clark and Rainer and Liranzo, and maybe Max Anderson and Hao Yu-Lee and, farther down the road, Cris Rodriguez. These are guys that people on this very board are excited about to at least some degree. They won't all help us in 2026, but maybe some will, along with perhaps an acquisition or two either this winter or at the deadline.

Let's pretend this isn't an AI slop rumor after all ... I don't know that we could get him without punting at least one of our top two prospects.

If you weren't so ****ing obstinate you'd feel good a lot more! 😉😂

¬□(rebuilding = tanking)

That sounds good in principle, and this makes sense if we are evaluating the efficacy of all first round picks versus all picks in later rounds. No argument with that conclusion here. However, it was pointed out that the median WAR for fifth overall pick, specifically, is zero, meaning half of all fifth picks in the first round end up with that or less. With such a high failure rate, is it really worth it to crash a team into the rocks, flirting with or exceeding 100 losses, and driving fan and sponsor interest in your team and the revenues attended to it way down, just to get that pick?

This is the advantage to living in Illinois—they will not simply hand over voters rolls to the regime, which pretty obviously wants to use them to persecute, and perhaps even arrest and prosecute, voters who vote disloyally against the president.

I am frankly shocked that Gnome was not more combative and did not simply shout the congressman down. I assume Trump is very disappointed in her, and that she is kicking herself for being caught so flat-footed and will redouble her efforts to push back loud and hard in future hearings, assuming she doesn't simply ignore a subpoena and instead claims Executive Branch immunity from having to appear at all.

It'll be glorious when they actually make her and the other elites pay a price for their nefarious actions.

It might be less that the government is unable to produce evidence of a deportation order, and more that they believe they don't have to produce a deportation order simply because they're the Trump administration.

The offense with the Harris pickups is more promising than with the Avila pickups, particularly where strikeout and walk rates are concerned, something I showed in a comparison after the season. I do think other things being equal, the Tigers will get better on offense just by increasing the Harris/Avila player mix.

I doubt we will have to worry about that with the new guy, but if Harris ever were to engage in tanking while with the Tigers, I will jump on the Dump Harris bandwagon along with some of the others. Also, I will jump back on the Sell the Team, Baby Doc bandwagon.

To the degree we don't already have a team we can put together with players already in the organization who can compete for a ring, I agree with this.

So if the median value of a fifth overall pick is zero career WAR, then why was Avila tanking the franchise to get a pick that high in the first place?