casimir Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 Detroit Pistons vs Charlotte Hornets http://cdn.chatsports.com/thumbnails/526-70470-original.jpeg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 Pistons aren't messing around tonight, they want to make sure they lose this crucial tank game. The Thunder would be proud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 A loss here would put us 5 games behind Charlotte for the 4th spot with just 20 games remaining. So barring a big run or collapse by Charlotte we'd all but guarantee a bottom 3 spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleterious Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Deleterious said: what a great pickup by weaver. he really helped this year and we were able to flip him for assets. really smart asset management. just like with kemba walker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleterious Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 Noel was always a throw in with the Burks deal. NY needed to clear cap space for Brunson so they shipped Burks to us for absolutely nothing (Nikola Radičević and some 2nd round picks). We basically got Burks for just taking on the Noel contract. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleterious Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 I didn't watch but the box score looks good for Wiseman. 23 points in 27 minutes on 9-11 shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted February 28, 2023 Author Share Posted February 28, 2023 6 hours ago, Deleterious said: I didn't watch but the box score looks good for Wiseman. 23 points in 27 minutes on 9-11 shooting. There was a good stretch of the game where they were down by 20. I turned it off after the 3rd. Happened to see it got whittled down to 5 before losing by 11. I don't want to minimize this game as a lot of garbage time. There's a lot of work to do defensively. But I think this trade could turn into a steal for Detroit. Shot chart: For what it's worth, Bagley's was pretty much the same: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleterious Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 The new David Robinson and Tim Duncan! All 3 bigs will benefit a great deal when Cade is back next year. Nothing better for a big than a good/willing passer like Cade. Some bad news. Ball broke his ankle last night. So the tank is really on for Charlotte now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 (edited) We're 5 games back in the win column with 20 to play, I think at best the Pistons go 7-13 but more than likely it will be like 5-15 at best so as long as Charlotte doesnt go something like 2-18 they should be fine. Edited February 28, 2023 by RandyMarsh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYLion Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 The Pistons aren't catching Charlotte. They might not even win 5 games the rest of the season. They're locked into 3rd because the Spurs and Rockets are historically bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 1 hour ago, NYLion said: The Pistons aren't catching Charlotte. They might not even win 5 games the rest of the season. They're locked into 3rd because the Spurs and Rockets are historically bad. the pistons and houston are equally terrible. but the pistons are without cade and houston is WITH jalen green and jabari smith. every day looks more and more like detroit made the right decision not to take green. he has highlight reel athleticism but hasnt improved one bit yet. still young obviously, but he has a lot of growing up to do to live up to his draft slot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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casimir Posted February 28, 2023 Author Share Posted February 28, 2023 5 hours ago, Deleterious said: The new David Robinson and Tim Duncan! Lefty/Righty PF/C combos are the new exploitable inefficiency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longgone Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 (edited) 21 hours ago, Deleterious said: Noel was always a throw in with the Burks deal. NY needed to clear cap space for Brunson so they shipped Burks to us for absolutely nothing (Nikola Radičević and some 2nd round picks). We basically got Burks for just taking on the Noel contract. Detroit received two 2nd round picks in the deal. And i believe one of the 2nds was their own '23 back which is fairly valuable, and the one they gave up is protected. Edited March 1, 2023 by Longgone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleterious Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 2 hours ago, Longgone said: Detroit received two 2nd round picks in the deal. And i believe one of the 2nds was their own '23 back which is fairly valuable, and the one they gave up is protected. You are right. But we also sent NY three second round picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longgone Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 7 hours ago, Deleterious said: You are right. But we also sent NY three second round picks. From the Free Press: "LAS VEGAS — The Detroit Pistons' most recent offseason trade with the New York Knicks became official Monday. And the deal has changed slightly from the initially agreed terms. The Pistons have acquired Alec Burks, Nerlens Noel, their own 2023 second-round pick, a 2026 second-round pick from either the Knicks or Minnesota Timberwolves and cash in exchange for the draft rights to Serbian point guard Nikola Radicevic and a protected second-round pick in 2025, the team announced. The Pistons were initially slated to receive a heavily protected 2024 second-round pick from the Miami Heat, rather than the 2026 pick from the Knicks or Timberwolves. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betrayer Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 I was at this game so I wasn't happy to hear we weren't fielding a NBA team. Would've been nice to at least see Ivey. Wiseman and Bagley both looked solid though. Of course, Livers has played more than 3 games now, so he's out with an injury again. Really wish that kid could stay on the court, but he could be a nice role player in the league. Ball breaking his ankle is bad news, but I still think it's highly unlikely we pass CHA in the standings even though they struggled against our G-League team once Ball went out. Good news is that SAN won a game. They also play HOU back to back this weekend, so somebody has to win those games. We have 1 game remaining against HOU, which could be a big one. That said, I'm not sure it matters where we fall if we don't land a top 3 seed. Picks 4-8 feels pretty tight talent-wise. So, as long as we're bottom 3 to land those top odds, that's all I'm worried about now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleterious Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 4 hours ago, Longgone said: From the Free Press: "LAS VEGAS — The Detroit Pistons' most recent offseason trade with the New York Knicks became official Monday. And the deal has changed slightly from the initially agreed terms. The Pistons have acquired Alec Burks, Nerlens Noel, their own 2023 second-round pick, a 2026 second-round pick from either the Knicks or Minnesota Timberwolves and cash in exchange for the draft rights to Serbian point guard Nikola Radicevic and a protected second-round pick in 2025, the team announced. The Pistons were initially slated to receive a heavily protected 2024 second-round pick from the Miami Heat, rather than the 2026 pick from the Knicks or Timberwolves. " looks like we sent them one second https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/n/noelne01.html July 11, 2022: Traded by the New York Knicks with cash, Alec Burks, a 2023 2nd round draft pick ( was later selected) and a 2026 2nd round draft pick ( was later selected) to the Detroit Pistons for Nikola Radičević and a 2025 2nd round draft pick ( was later selected). conditional 2025 2nd-rd pick is DET own 2023 2nd-rd pick is DET own 2026 2nd-rd pick is more favorable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longgone Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Deleterious said: looks like we sent them one second https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/n/noelne01.html July 11, 2022: Traded by the New York Knicks with cash, Alec Burks, a 2023 2nd round draft pick ( was later selected) and a 2026 2nd round draft pick ( was later selected) to the Detroit Pistons for Nikola Radičević and a 2025 2nd round draft pick ( was later selected). conditional 2025 2nd-rd pick is DET own 2023 2nd-rd pick is DET own 2026 2nd-rd pick is more favorable Boy, is that poorly worded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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