gehringer_2 Posted November 7, 2021 Author Share Posted November 7, 2021 39 minutes ago, buddha said: bertuzzi has become their best player. He has always been strong on his skates along the boards and all, but he is showing open ice skating flair I don't really remember seeing in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruzer1 Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 6 hours ago, buddha said: bertuzzi has become their best player. I disagree. Raymond is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted November 7, 2021 Author Share Posted November 7, 2021 5 minutes ago, Cruzer1 said: I disagree. Raymond is. Can I vote for Moritz! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slothfacekilla Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 All I know that Raymond and Seider have been revelations so far for the Wings, exactly what they need. Every time I watch Raymand play I'm more impressed with him, the kid just gets the game. I'm so excited to see these kids grow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 2 hours ago, Cruzer1 said: I disagree. Raymond is. nope. bertuzzi gets the puck in the corners. bertuzzi makes the plays. not only does he do the dirty work, he is talented enough to make the plays. raymond is a talented kid, bertuzzi is their best player right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 2 hours ago, gehringer_2 said: Can I vote for Moritz! seider made a few mistakes in that buffalo game. giving the puck away. he's going to be great. he's really good right now. he's obviously their best overall defenseman right now. but their best player? not yet. that's bert right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 let's all be happy that seider and raymond have played so well. when our "swedish paul coffey but tall" gets here next year, we're gonna have a serious foundation to work with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slothfacekilla Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 1 hour ago, buddha said: let's all be happy that seider and raymond have played so well. when our "swedish paul coffey but tall" gets here next year, we're gonna have a serious foundation to work with. Don't forget our next Franzen too 🤠 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted November 7, 2021 Author Share Posted November 7, 2021 1 hour ago, buddha said: let's all be happy that seider and raymond have played so well. when our "swedish paul coffey but tall" gets here next year, we're gonna have a serious foundation to work with. Don't like the Coffey comp. They didn't win a cup until Coffey was gone...🏒 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruzer1 Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 5 hours ago, buddha said: nope. bertuzzi gets the puck in the corners. bertuzzi makes the plays. not only does he do the dirty work, he is talented enough to make the plays. raymond is a talented kid, bertuzzi is their best player right now. Bertuzzi doesn't play up there. Get your damn shot, punk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 3 hours ago, gehringer_2 said: Don't like the Coffey comp. They didn't win a cup until Coffey was gone...🏒 edmonton won a couple with him, iirc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 4 hours ago, slothfacekilla said: Don't forget our next Franzen too 🤠 i see him as our next holmstrom, but i'll take franzen! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted November 7, 2021 Author Share Posted November 7, 2021 8 minutes ago, buddha said: edmonton won a couple with him, iirc. game was already changing by the time Coffey got to Det. Of course he was older too! It would be interesting to see what a young Paul Coffee would do in today high speed NHL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 47 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: game was already changing by the time Coffey got to Det. Of course he was older too! It would be interesting to see what a young Paul Coffee would do in today high speed NHL. sure, which is exactly why a BIGGER PAUL COFFEY would be a nice thing to have. sheesh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 6 hours ago, slothfacekilla said: Don't forget our next Franzen too 🤠 Damn!!! All ours!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted November 8, 2021 Author Share Posted November 8, 2021 2 hours ago, buddha said: sure, which is exactly why a BIGGER PAUL COFFEY would be a nice thing to have. sheesh. Only if he plays bigger. Coffey's problem - at the end of his career was that when the game got tighter he still played too soft. The Wings have some experience with guys that haven't played as big as they grew. That's the only reason I would call being compared to Coffey mixed praise. I don't want a bigger guy that plays like Coffey did for the Wings, I want a bigger guy that plays like Coffey couldn't! So call that semantics if you like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Just now, gehringer_2 said: Only if he plays bigger. Coffey's problem - at the end of his career was that when the game got tighter he still played too soft. The Wings have some experience with guys that haven't played as big as they grew. That's the only reason I would call being compared to Coffey mixed praise. I don't want a bigger guy that plays like Coffey did for the Wings, I want a bigger guy that plays like Coffey couldn't! So call that semantics if you like. i'd take paul coffey's career for edvinsson and be very pleased with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted November 8, 2021 Author Share Posted November 8, 2021 (edited) 21 minutes ago, buddha said: i'd take paul coffey's career for edvinsson and be very pleased with it. I would too if the Wings could be the 80's Oilers! And Coffey was kind of a unicorn - would a coach today put any kid coming up with Coffey's skillset on the blue line? Edited November 8, 2021 by gehringer_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Just now, gehringer_2 said: I would too if the Wings could be the 80's Oilers! seider and edvinsson is looking like a potential powerhouse pair, regardless of the era. team still needs a lot, but the progress of their young players is really encouraging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted November 8, 2021 Author Share Posted November 8, 2021 1 minute ago, buddha said: seider and edvinsson is looking like a potential powerhouse pair, regardless of the era. team still needs a lot, but the progress of their young players is really encouraging. Just watching Seider not mindlessly passing the puck up ice and giving away possession is such a reminder that is doesn't have to be the way it's been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordstanley Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Up close and personal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 10 hours ago, buddha said: nope. bertuzzi gets the puck in the corners. bertuzzi makes the plays. not only does he do the dirty work, he is talented enough to make the plays. raymond is a talented kid, bertuzzi is their best player right now. Yeah... Bertuzzi... He's turning into a monster... Next test is sustainability... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 5 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said: Yeah... Bertuzzi... He's turning into a monster... Next test is sustainability... he's second in the league in goals. he having a monster season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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