Media Guides

[Edman85]

I've got a bunch of research projects on the side and I've found the Tigers media guides to be wealths of information. I've found a bunch on Amazon and Ebay for super cheap. The Tigers used to post them, as well as archives back to 2008, online. They took those down a few years ago. Searching around the web, I've found most back to 1961, but am missing a few.

• 2017
• 2016
• 2015
• 2014
• 2007
• 1985
• 1984

Does anybody have digital copies of any of these, pulling them down when they were available? Much appreciated if so. Some things I'm trying to gather and share:

• Granular transaction data (promotions/demotions/injuries... things not covered by BR/Retrosheet)
• Archived Tigers Coaching Staffs, major and minor leagues, scouts, and front office.
• International Signings

[Edman85]

Oh, here's a link of digital ones I've found:

Media Guides

[Tenacious D]

Won’t be digital, but if you’re local, there is a monthly sports card/memorabilia show in Troy and I’ve seen media guides for sale there.

[Toddwert]

I have a few mid 90's media guides 

[Edman85]

Thanks guys. A bunch did just come from Ebay and reek of cigarette smoke to the point I'm not sure they are usable.

[Edman85]

Also, the 1992 one on Ebay had a title "Just like Ernie used!" Think about that for a second...

[Tiger337]

4 hours ago, Edman85 said:

Thanks guys. A bunch did just come from Ebay and reek of cigarette smoke to the point I'm not sure they are usable.

Gil Hodges died of a heart attack age 47.  I remember having a baseball card of him and thinking how old he looked as a manager. 

[Tiger337]

 

[Edman85]

By the way, the end goal is a comprehensive transaction and team personnel database, something that isn't really out there. Step 1 is attempting to put an index of every Tigers amateur international signing together.

[chasfh]

On 1/4/2024 at 2:57 PM, Edman85 said:

I've got a bunch of research projects on the side and I've found the Tigers media guides to be wealths of information. I've found a bunch on Amazon and Ebay for super cheap. The Tigers used to post them, as well as archives back to 2008, online. They took those down a few years ago. Searching around the web, I've found most back to 1961, but am missing a few.

• 2017
• 2016
• 2015
• 2014
• 2007
• 1985
• 1984

Does anybody have digital copies of any of these, pulling them down when they were available? Much appreciated if so. Some things I'm trying to gather and share:

• Granular transaction data (promotions/demotions/injuries... things not covered by BR/Retrosheet)
• Archived Tigers Coaching Staffs, major and minor leagues, scouts, and front office.
• International Signings

I've uploaded 2014 through 2017 for you. I'll see whether I can locate any more.

[Edman85]

2 hours ago, chasfh said:

I've uploaded 2014 through 2017 for you. I'll see whether I can locate any more.

Awesome!!!!

 

(Also, I didn't realize I gave write privileges. Don't be offended if I take those away. I fear accidental deletions)

Edited January 7, 2024 by Edman85

[Edman85]

TRIVIA!

Who was the first player signed by the Tigers out of the Dominican Republic to play in the major leagues?

They were the 24th of 26 teams to produce a big leaguer out of the DR. The Mariners' first debut was right after the Tiger's guy. The Cubs weren't until three years later.

[Tiger337]

2 hours ago, Edman85 said:

TRIVIA!

Who was the first player signed by the Tigers out of the Dominican Republic to play in the major leagues?

They were the 24th of 26 teams to produce a big leaguer out of the DR. The Mariners' first debut was right after the Tiger's guy. The Cubs weren't until three years later.

Danny Bautista

[oblong]

I thought he was going to be very good..... he looked powerful.

 

[Edman85]

Rudy Pemberton was actually the first signed, but Bautista made it sooner. Jose Lima second.

[Edman85]

I've got a chart of analytics positions I'm putting together, and that department has grown from two in the late Dombrowski era to at least 37 (that I know of) analytics or analytics adjacent staffers.

[oblong]

2 hours ago, Edman85 said:

I've got a chart of analytics positions I'm putting together, and that department has grown from two in the late Dombrowski era to at least 37 (that I know of) analytics or analytics adjacent staffers.

If you assume a cost of $200K per person, including salary,benefits, taxes, that’s  $7.4M a year. I would think that more than pays for itself with average results. 

[Edman85]

If I was sure it was a $200K a year job, I would have sent Menzin my resume already...

[casimir]

On 1/8/2024 at 9:45 AM, oblong said:

I thought he was going to be very good..... he looked powerful.

 

He saved his best work for the biggest of stages.

[Tiger337]

20 hours ago, Edman85 said:

If I was sure it was a $200K a year job, I would have sent Menzin my resume already...

I have always assumed that these baseball analytic jobs don't pay well since there is probably a large pool of qualified and interested candidates.  

[oblong]

anytime we budget a head we use close to that figure.  It’s not their salary but the total cost involved of having an employee or consultant/contractor.   It’s just for very high level ballpark estimates. 

[chasfh]

23 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

I have always assumed that these baseball analytic jobs don't pay well since there is probably a large pool of qualified and interested candidates.  

Also, baseball doesn’t pay basic analysts well since they bring in people right out of college for it. These are stepping-stone jobs with a lot of turnover. I would not be surprised to learn they make less than $50K. 

[Tiger337]

6 hours ago, chasfh said:

Also, baseball doesn’t pay basic analysts well since they bring in people right out of college for it. These are stepping-stone jobs with a lot of turnover. I would not be surprised to learn they make less than $50K. 

Yes, I have noticed that some of the jobs specifically ask for a college student or very recent graduate.  

[Edman85]

22 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

Yes, I have noticed that some of the jobs specifically ask for a college student or very recent graduate.  

One job the Tigers posted this year, "principal analyst," required a PhD. Most of their analytics hires do tend to be recent grads, converted interns.

 

I will say in my job, we have had more success molding younger folks than taking on people with experience.

[Tiger337]

My experience is that younger people tend to learn things faster, but lack of experience often causes them to get frustrated with the many redos required in research.