Edman85 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 I've got a bunch of research projects on the side and I've found the Tigers media guides to be wealths of information. I've found a bunch on Amazon and Ebay for super cheap. The Tigers used to post them, as well as archives back to 2008, online. They took those down a few years ago. Searching around the web, I've found most back to 1961, but am missing a few. 2017 2016 2015 2014 2007 1985 1984 Does anybody have digital copies of any of these, pulling them down when they were available? Much appreciated if so. Some things I'm trying to gather and share: Granular transaction data (promotions/demotions/injuries... things not covered by BR/Retrosheet) Archived Tigers Coaching Staffs, major and minor leagues, scouts, and front office. International Signings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edman85 Posted January 4 Author Share Posted January 4 Oh, here's a link of digital ones I've found: Media Guides Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenacious D Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Won’t be digital, but if you’re local, there is a monthly sports card/memorabilia show in Troy and I’ve seen media guides for sale there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toddwert Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 I have a few mid 90's media guides Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edman85 Posted January 6 Author Share Posted January 6 Thanks guys. A bunch did just come from Ebay and reek of cigarette smoke to the point I'm not sure they are usable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edman85 Posted January 6 Author Share Posted January 6 Also, the 1992 one on Ebay had a title "Just like Ernie used!" Think about that for a second... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 4 hours ago, Edman85 said: Thanks guys. A bunch did just come from Ebay and reek of cigarette smoke to the point I'm not sure they are usable. Gil Hodges died of a heart attack age 47. I remember having a baseball card of him and thinking how old he looked as a manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Edman85 Posted January 6 Author Share Posted January 6 By the way, the end goal is a comprehensive transaction and team personnel database, something that isn't really out there. Step 1 is attempting to put an index of every Tigers amateur international signing together. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 On 1/4/2024 at 2:57 PM, Edman85 said: I've got a bunch of research projects on the side and I've found the Tigers media guides to be wealths of information. I've found a bunch on Amazon and Ebay for super cheap. The Tigers used to post them, as well as archives back to 2008, online. They took those down a few years ago. Searching around the web, I've found most back to 1961, but am missing a few. 2017 2016 2015 2014 2007 1985 1984 Does anybody have digital copies of any of these, pulling them down when they were available? Much appreciated if so. Some things I'm trying to gather and share: Granular transaction data (promotions/demotions/injuries... things not covered by BR/Retrosheet) Archived Tigers Coaching Staffs, major and minor leagues, scouts, and front office. International Signings I've uploaded 2014 through 2017 for you. I'll see whether I can locate any more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edman85 Posted January 7 Author Share Posted January 7 (edited) 2 hours ago, chasfh said: I've uploaded 2014 through 2017 for you. I'll see whether I can locate any more. Awesome!!!! (Also, I didn't realize I gave write privileges. Don't be offended if I take those away. I fear accidental deletions) Edited January 7 by Edman85 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edman85 Posted January 8 Author Share Posted January 8 TRIVIA! Who was the first player signed by the Tigers out of the Dominican Republic to play in the major leagues? They were the 24th of 26 teams to produce a big leaguer out of the DR. The Mariners' first debut was right after the Tiger's guy. The Cubs weren't until three years later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 2 hours ago, Edman85 said: TRIVIA! Who was the first player signed by the Tigers out of the Dominican Republic to play in the major leagues? They were the 24th of 26 teams to produce a big leaguer out of the DR. The Mariners' first debut was right after the Tiger's guy. The Cubs weren't until three years later. Danny Bautista 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 I thought he was going to be very good..... he looked powerful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edman85 Posted January 8 Author Share Posted January 8 Rudy Pemberton was actually the first signed, but Bautista made it sooner. Jose Lima second. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edman85 Posted January 9 Author Share Posted January 9 I've got a chart of analytics positions I'm putting together, and that department has grown from two in the late Dombrowski era to at least 37 (that I know of) analytics or analytics adjacent staffers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 2 hours ago, Edman85 said: I've got a chart of analytics positions I'm putting together, and that department has grown from two in the late Dombrowski era to at least 37 (that I know of) analytics or analytics adjacent staffers. If you assume a cost of $200K per person, including salary,benefits, taxes, that’s $7.4M a year. I would think that more than pays for itself with average results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edman85 Posted January 9 Author Share Posted January 9 If I was sure it was a $200K a year job, I would have sent Menzin my resume already... 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 On 1/8/2024 at 9:45 AM, oblong said: I thought he was going to be very good..... he looked powerful. He saved his best work for the biggest of stages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 20 hours ago, Edman85 said: If I was sure it was a $200K a year job, I would have sent Menzin my resume already... I have always assumed that these baseball analytic jobs don't pay well since there is probably a large pool of qualified and interested candidates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 anytime we budget a head we use close to that figure. It’s not their salary but the total cost involved of having an employee or consultant/contractor. It’s just for very high level ballpark estimates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 23 hours ago, Tiger337 said: I have always assumed that these baseball analytic jobs don't pay well since there is probably a large pool of qualified and interested candidates. Also, baseball doesn’t pay basic analysts well since they bring in people right out of college for it. These are stepping-stone jobs with a lot of turnover. I would not be surprised to learn they make less than $50K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 6 hours ago, chasfh said: Also, baseball doesn’t pay basic analysts well since they bring in people right out of college for it. These are stepping-stone jobs with a lot of turnover. I would not be surprised to learn they make less than $50K. Yes, I have noticed that some of the jobs specifically ask for a college student or very recent graduate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edman85 Posted January 12 Author Share Posted January 12 22 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: Yes, I have noticed that some of the jobs specifically ask for a college student or very recent graduate. One job the Tigers posted this year, "principal analyst," required a PhD. Most of their analytics hires do tend to be recent grads, converted interns. I will say in my job, we have had more success molding younger folks than taking on people with experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 My experience is that younger people tend to learn things faster, but lack of experience often causes them to get frustrated with the many redos required in research. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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