Last Chance Saloon: 2025 MLB Draft

[KL2]

2 hours ago, irishpack said:

What are the Tigers doing?

Drafting one player you've never seen play over another play you've never seen play

[Sports_Freak]

2 minutes ago, KL2 said:

Drafting one player you've never seen play over another play you've never seen play

People on Twitter hearing the Tigers drafted a pitcher?

"Bring him up."  LMAO

[Cruzer1]

You can't predict what the Tigers will do on draft day, especially since Harris has taken over. They have their own board.

[1984Echoes]

52 minutes ago, LongLiveMaroth said:

 

If he adds a hard curveball to that he's going to be nasty....

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[1984Echoes]

2 hours ago, LongLiveMaroth said:

 

 

$500K.

WAG.

[holygoat]

6 hours ago, LongLiveMaroth said:

 

Ryan Hall? If nothing else, we'll know about weather delays before any other teams.

[casimir]

I don’t know anything about these Tiger draftees.  As long as a few of them become perennial all stars, I’ll remain calm.

[papalawrence]

Like with their 8th pick, their 11th rd pick was also projected much higher

 

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[LongLiveMaroth]

 

[LongLiveMaroth]

Well 13 Pitchers taken; I like seeing that they used their higher picks on position players. They went heavy on pitching last year, and as has been pointed out, a lot of them are on the shelf this year due to injury. When it comes to the draft I am always a proponent of picking talent over position, as you can always trade talent for talent to fill holes. Interestingly, they drafted 7 high schoolers and only one college senior this time around. I doubt they sign all 7 but based on the previous drafts you can tell they have a preference to prep player over college.

[chasfh]

22 hours ago, Edman85 said:

Yes. Once you are in the majors, all sorts of clocks start ticking. Running out of options as early as their age 21 or 22 season depending on when they are sent up and down, not to mention tying down a scarce 40 man spot.

Including the arb clock? I thought that was depending on days spent in the majors. I mean, I know that clock advances by at least a single day in my scenario, but is there something more that makes it much more significant as a consideration?

I know it's true that an option gets burned in my scenario in year one, and that would cost the team a year on the back end. Is there anything else I'm not thinking of attached to this?

As for the 40-man, I am 80% sure that the team would have to pass the player through waivers to get him off the 40 again, but are there any further machinations the team can undertake to get the young player off the 40 without losing him to someone else through waivers?

Anything else I'm not thinking of here?

[Longgone]

1 hour ago, LongLiveMaroth said:

Well 13 Pitchers taken; I like seeing that they used their higher picks on position players. They went heavy on pitching last year, and as has been pointed out, a lot of them are on the shelf this year due to injury. When it comes to the draft I am always a proponent of picking talent over position, as you can always trade talent for talent to fill holes. Interestingly, they drafted 7 high schoolers and only one college senior this time around. I doubt they sign all 7 but based on the previous drafts you can tell they have a preference to prep player over college.

I think they’ll sign all except Ethan Rogers.

[LongLiveMaroth]

1 hour ago, LongLiveMaroth said:

Well 13 Pitchers taken; I like seeing that they used their higher picks on position players. They went heavy on pitching last year, and as has been pointed out, a lot of them are on the shelf this year due to injury. When it comes to the draft I am always a proponent of picking talent over position, as you can always trade talent for talent to fill holes. Interestingly, they drafted 7 high schoolers and only one college senior this time around. I doubt they sign all 7 but based on the previous drafts you can tell they have a preference to prep player over college.

*three College seniors 

[Edman85]

24 minutes ago, chasfh said:

Including the arb clock? I thought that was depending on days spent in the majors. I mean, I know that clock advances by at least a single day in my scenario, but is there something more that makes it much more significant as a consideration?

I know it's true that an option gets burned in my scenario in year one, and that would cost the team a year on the back end. Is there anything else I'm not thinking of attached to this?

As for the 40-man, I am 80% sure that the team would have to pass the player through waivers to get him off the 40 again, but are there any further machinations the team can undertake to get the young player off the 40 without losing him to someone else through waivers?

Anything else I'm not thinking of here?

Arb clock is based on service time, so it only counts days in the majors.

 

Let's game this out and say the Tigers promoted Jackson Jobe in 2021, but sent him down after one start. He only gets one day of service time, but if he was injured in Spring Training in 2022 before he is sent down, he would need to go on the Major League IL because he spent time on the active roster. I don't think he was, so he spends the whole year burning Option 2. Ditto 2023 and 2024 (he would be eligible for a fourth option). So in summary, he would be out of options now but wouldn't have much more service time. The spring training option/injury restriction is a service risk, especially for a pitcher, but only applies if they spent any time the previous year in the Bigs. (That is why Ty Madden is on the 60 day IL but Mattison was optioned).

 

There is also the salary component. 40 man players who have been in the majors are guaranteed at least $125K (that number goes up every year and I don't remember the exact number). That is much higher than the minimums at each level on the way up.

And when I talk about tying up a 40 man spot, remember this when the Tigers are pulling their hair out over who to DFA toward the end of the off-season. Mason Englert would come in handy right now, wouldn't he? If Jobe was pre-emptively added, maybe they don't have room to claim Tyler Holton, or they drop somebody else on the back end before they can come up.

 

[AlaskanTigersFan]

4 hours ago, Longgone said:

I think they’ll sign all except Ethan Rogers.

I highly doubt River Hamilton will sign unfortunately. If they do, that'd be the coup of the draft.  I also worry about Rogers as well as Ryan Hall. Hall and Hamilton will both need to be way over slot to sign...... I'd give us a 10% chance to sign Hamilton though.... 50% for Hall and 20% for Rogers. 

[LongLiveMaroth]

25 minutes ago, AlaskanTigersFan said:

I highly doubt River Hamilton will sign unfortunately. If they do, that'd be the coup of the draft.  I also worry about Rogers as well as Ryan Hall. Hall and Hamilton will both need to be way over slot to sign...... I'd give us a 10% chance to sign Hamilton though.... 50% for Hall and 20% for Rogers. 

I'd be shocked if Hall and Hamilton don't sign. Hall is signing for sure since he was drafted in the first 10 rounds.

Edited yesterday at 07:41 PM by LongLiveMaroth

[Longgone]

1 hour ago, AlaskanTigersFan said:

I highly doubt River Hamilton will sign unfortunately. If they do, that'd be the coup of the draft.  I also worry about Rogers as well as Ryan Hall. Hall and Hamilton will both need to be way over slot to sign...... I'd give us a 10% chance to sign Hamilton though.... 50% for Hall and 20% for Rogers. 

They wouldn’t have taken Hamilton where they did without the outlines of a deal. Rogers is just insurance if something else goes wrong.

[Longgone]

Just now, Longgone said:

They wouldn’t have taken Hamilton where they did without the outlines of a deal. Rogers is just insurance if something else goes wrong.

Hall will definitely sign.

[casimir]

Did Maybin sign yet?

[Tenacious D]

[LongLiveMaroth]

10 hours ago, Tenacious D said:

Here is an interview with him. 

 

[1984Echoes]

12 hours ago, Tenacious D said:

Sort of like getting Skubal in the 9th...

Or we would love to hope so...