guy incognito Posted September 8 Posted September 8 The punchline being that no amount of documentation will be enough to keep our neo-SS from hauling any brown people away whenever they damn well please. 1 Quote
mtutiger Posted September 8 Posted September 8 Wow, who knew that JD "I don't give a ****" Vance was lying lol 1 Quote
romad1 Posted September 8 Posted September 8 31 minutes ago, mtutiger said: Wow, who knew that JD "I don't give a ****" Vance was lying lol He doesn't give a **** about the truth I guess. Quote
Dan Gilmore Posted September 8 Posted September 8 14 minutes ago, romad1 said: He doesn't give a **** about the truth I guess. Bingo. Quote
LaceyLou Posted September 8 Posted September 8 I figured he was either a liar or an idiot, if he's saying that 'doesn't sound like Drumpf.' 1 Quote
Tiger337 Posted September 8 Posted September 8 13 minutes ago, LaceyLou said: I figured he was either a liar or an idiot, if he's saying that 'doesn't sound like Drumpf.' Yup, That is exactly who he has always been and he used to be openly proud of it. Anybody who doesn't understand this has either not payed attention at all or is willfully ignorant. 1 Quote
chasfh Posted September 8 Posted September 8 53 minutes ago, mtutiger said: So incredibly gross and evil Documented child sex slavery. Quote
romad1 Posted September 8 Posted September 8 Oh man...the stories coming out about the "process" in the Venezuelan boat attack are very alarming. They did not involve the DoD lawyers at all. They normally do the interdiction/capture in these cases. They are calling the people on the boat "affiliated or associated with" the purported gang. The Coast Guard which actually has arrest authorities were not involved at all. So, this was Adderall and Jim Beam making a decision to take down a "drug" cartel. 1 Quote
gehringer_2 Posted September 9 Posted September 9 22 minutes ago, romad1 said: Oh man...the stories coming out about the "process" in the Venezuelan boat attack are very alarming. They did not involve the DoD lawyers at all. They normally do the interdiction/capture in these cases. They are calling the people on the boat "affiliated or associated with" the purported gang. The Coast Guard which actually has arrest authorities were not involved at all. So, this was Adderall and Jim Beam making a decision to take down a "drug" cartel. It was murder on the high seas. I would be nice if every American could take off their Jingo glasses long enough to see a little reality. 2 1 Quote
Mr.TaterSalad Posted September 9 Posted September 9 10 hours ago, mtutiger said: So incredibly gross and evil Can't wait for the "this is what we voted for" crowd to come out, defend this repugnant crap, and tell us this is what we voted for. Quote
romad1 Posted September 9 Posted September 9 No measure of anything but the special election here in NOVA for Gerry Connolly replacement is today. There were no GOP people at the polling place this morning. Dems were in full effect. In previous specials, the GOP would be right there along side the dems. It can't be popular to be on the side of the mass firings and screwball Heritage 2025 stuff. Quote
Tiger337 Posted September 9 Posted September 9 4 hours ago, guy incognito said: I don't think it's a crazy notion that Trump was an informant. Thinking that he was an innocent informant is the crazy part. Quote
chasfh Posted September 9 Posted September 9 5 hours ago, Mr.TaterSalad said: Can't wait for the "this is what we voted for" crowd to come out, defend this repugnant crap, and tell us this is what we voted for. The best part will be if/when MAGA goes into decline and the recriminations start, and the red hats will blame liberals/Democrats/you/me for being complicit in allowing a system to evolve to lead to a Trump being elected in the first place. Quote
chasfh Posted September 9 Posted September 9 49 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: I don't think it's a crazy notion that Trump was an informant. Thinking that he was an innocent informant is the crazy part. He informs on himself with every accusation he hurls at others. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted September 9 Posted September 9 1 hour ago, chasfh said: The best part will be if/when MAGA goes into decline and the recriminations start, and the red hats will blame liberals/Democrats/you/me for being complicit in allowing a system to evolve to lead to a Trump being elected in the first place. this reminds me of a the column Brooks wrote this week. He defended that he 'can't' be a liberal even now because he doesn't agree with liberal welfare policy. What total naivete in a grown-ass man. If you don't get on the lib side now you aren't going to have the option to debate welfare policy in the future. Idiot. 2 Quote
romad1 Posted September 9 Posted September 9 5 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: this reminds me of a the column Brooks wrote this week. He defended that he 'can't' be a liberal even now because he doesn't agree with liberal welfare policy. What total naivete in a grown-ass man. If you don't get on the lib side now you aren't going to have the option to debate welfare policy in the future. Idiot. Tony Gilroy on Charlie Sykes (Sykes was quite the fanboy let me tell you), was basically...when you are in the situation of autocracy threatening democracy (as I'm sure everyone here including the people cheering it on agree) policy differences are out the window. You are at the stage where the only moral position is to fight the autocracy. In Andor, Gilroy used the example of the French Resistance in WWII but there were many others as well where there were all sorts of petty squabbles between factions of the resistance groups. I gather Charles de Gaulle's forces were in gang warfare against communist resistance forces all over London during the run up to D-Day. Brooks is like those Monarchist resistance groups still pining for the Hohenzollern kaiser to return to Germany. 1 Quote
Tiger337 Posted September 9 Posted September 9 1 hour ago, gehringer_2 said: this reminds me of a the column Brooks wrote this week. He defended that he 'can't' be a liberal even now because he doesn't agree with liberal welfare policy. What total naivete in a grown-ass man. If you don't get on the lib side now you aren't going to have the option to debate welfare policy in the future. Idiot. I think one can get on the save democracy side without embracing welfare. 1 Quote
ewsieg Posted September 9 Posted September 9 https://newrepublic.com/article/200181/ice-raid-hyundai-stupid-cruel I don't disagree with New Republic here, it's stupid and cruel, but I think they are missing the bigger picture. I feel like they are trying to make it an argument between should we go after those working here illegally, or those who hired them to work here illegally. Right now Trump is leveraging his Tariff scare tactic with agreements that if you invest in America, you'll get a pass, or at least you'll be better off than others. These South Koreans weren't permanent workers in Georgia, they were here because of a broken immigration system that can't process these workers in a realistic time frame. They weren't here 'taking our jobs', but helping get a plant online and training locals that would be working here. It's the Trump admin cutting off its nose to spite its face. There is zero chance they get the immigration thing fixed either, they have no interest in doing so. How ironic/crazy would it be if in 50 years kids are reading in textbooks that Trumps tariff plan was actually successful and did spur the activity he wanted, but his own immigration plan suffocated it and never allowed it to come to fruition. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted September 9 Posted September 9 41 minutes ago, ewsieg said: or those who hired them to work here illegally. The Hyundai raid may be have been the dumbest one yet. But more generally, have they yet fined or even brought a single employer to court? This is exactly analogous to drugs and pushers. You can bust all the pushers you want, but as long as there are users, new ones will arise in their place because the profit is worth the risk from enforcement. You can bust and deport all the workers you want, as long as there is no effective penalty for hiring them, the profit from low wage workers is higher than any cost they bear from enforcement - (which only seems to fall on the workers). So the jobs for undocumented workers remain, and If the jobs stay, they will keep drawing illegal workers, who in the end will fail to be dissuaded from coming by all the depravity ICE throws at them for that purpose, because humans will just put up with whatever they have to put up with to support themselves and their families. 1 Quote
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