Trumps Presidency 2025

[chasfh]

1 hour ago, LaceyLou said:

According to them you are now a member of "The Far Left."

No doubt. Romad1 is the pinkest pinko that ever sashayed down Pinko Street.

[chasfh]

They have broken the seal on murdering ordinary white people, unrepentedly and in public, and we have entered the acceleration phase.

This is it. This is the inflection point. Either it stops here, or millions die. It’s that simple.

[Tigermojo]

21 minutes ago, oblong said:

On their way to Putin's meat grinder.

[mtutiger]

22 minutes ago, antrat said:

I'm not talking about the far right idiots, I'm talking to the ones that just voted for Trump because they thought he would be better for the economy. Or those that voted for him because they think Dems are all weak on the border, cancel culture types.

Is this really the America you want? American citizens being gunned down in the streets of this country while the government denies what your eyes see?

Are you that lost?

There's a lot of evidence that this isn't what a lot of them wanted, for what it's worth

[mtutiger]

23 minutes ago, chasfh said:

This is it. This is the inflection point. Either it stops here, or millions die. It’s that simple.

He's likely going to end up very underwater on the issue of immigration and have managed to do the unthinkable in making "Abolish ICE" a relatively mainstream political position. On top of being underwater on every other issue of the day and with somewhere around 60%+ of the country disapproving. These are not conditions that historically lead to consolidation... the buy in from the public isn't there, and decreases with each passing day.

On top of this, they have shown themselves to be unable (with, paraphrasing Pam Bondi's own words, the full weight of the government) to subdue the 16th largest metropolitan area in the country. If anything, they are losing more and more control by the day. They don't have the ability to scale this up from here... and in all likelihood never will.

Millions are not gonna die over this ****. It's a campaign based around fear, but ultimately their tactics are not working. Ordinary Minnesotans are demonstrating this every single day. It doesn't mean there won't be more horrors to come, it will get a lot worse honestly. But they will fail in the end.

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[romad1]

40 minutes ago, chasfh said:

No doubt. Romad1 is the pinkest pinko that ever sashayed down Pinko Street.

Yeah, its vegetable rights and no nukes all the way. 

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And they are randomly grabbing REAL NATIVES...

 

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CBP chief Bovino has confirmed that the officers who executed Alex Pretti in the street yesterday are not only *not on administrative leave,* they have all been reassigned to other jurisdictions and are all on the street today. 

This is totally unheard of for any officer-involved shooting

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[Motor City Sonics]

57 minutes ago, romad1 said:

Yeah, its vegetable rights and no nukes all the way. 

[oblong]

1 hour ago, mtutiger said:

He's likely going to end up very underwater on the issue of immigration and have managed to do the unthinkable in making "Abolish ICE" a relatively mainstream political position. On top of being underwater on every other issue of the day and with somewhere around 60%+ of the country disapproving. These are not conditions that historically lead to consolidation... the buy in from the public isn't there, and decreases with each passing day.

On top of this, they have shown themselves to be unable (with, paraphrasing Pam Bondi's own words, the full weight of the government) to subdue the 16th largest metropolitan area in the country. If anything, they are losing more and more control by the day. They don't have the ability to scale this up from here... and in all likelihood never will.

Millions are not gonna die over this ****. It's a campaign based around fear, but ultimately their tactics are not working. Ordinary Minnesotans are demonstrating this every single day. It doesn't mean there won't be more horrors to come, it will get a lot worse honestly. But they will fail in the end.

But what good does “being underwater” do for the people being hauled away or shot?  This isn’t going away. A bad outing on meet the press by a cabinet member isn’t going to turn the tide. Nobody is going to stop this until he’s dead or removed from office and the latter will never happen.  This isn’t about political capital. Conventional norms are out the window.  Polling and editorials and podcasts will not do anything to resolve this. Traditional political analysis and history are irrelevant now. 

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[Motor City Sonics]

4 hours ago, oblong said:

You've got it wrong.   Its good for people to carry a gun, as long as they vote Republican. 

 

We don't know that Alex Pretti was not a Republican at some time.   Burt since he worked a job where he helped people, I doubt he was a current Republican.    

[mtutiger]

14 minutes ago, oblong said:

But what good does “being underwater” do for the people being hauled away or shot?  

If politics don't matter, if the consent of the majority is irrelevant and does not matter, then what is there to talk about really? Why are people in Minneapolis even bothering to show up? Might as well turn off the lights and pack it in guys, show's over.

I believe the politics absolutely *do* matter. What is taking place in Minneapolis right now is not all that different to what MLK and the civil rights movement did when they faced off with the likes of Bull Connor. The whole point was to use non violence to demonstrate the cruelty of her local government. It worked then and I refuse to say that it is futile now. It's an insult to the people of Minneapolis and Minnesota and it is a disservice to the memory of Renee Good and Alex Pretti.

I don't deny that things will get worse before they get better. But they *will* get better. And no, millions of people are not going to die. That's my point

[oblong]

7 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

If politics don't matter, if the consent of the majority is irrelevant and does not matter, then what is there to talk about really? Why are people in Minneapolis even bothering to show up? Might as well turn off the lights and pack it in guys, show's over.

I believe the politics absolutely *do* matter. What is taking place in Minneapolis right now is not all that different to what MLK and the civil rights movement did when they faced off with the likes of Bull Connor. The whole point was to use non violence to demonstrate the cruelty of her local government. It worked then and I refuse to say that it is futile now. It's an insult to the people of Minneapolis and Minnesota and it is a disservice to the memory of Renee Good and Alex Pretti.

I don't deny that things will get worse before they get better. But they *will* get better. And no, millions of people are not going to die. That's my point

We are at the point where the politics do not matter. They aren’t doing this because they think they were told to by voters. It’s because they can. That was the goal. Just get in and Johnson and the Senate will let us steamroll. The voters are irrelevant now.  We are comparing rugby to US football.  They aren’t polling this ****.  

[romad1]

34 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said:

you nailed that.  That was what I was thinking.  

[mtutiger]

3 minutes ago, oblong said:

We are at the point where the politics do not matter. They aren’t doing this because they think they were told to by voters. It’s because they can. That was the goal. The voters are irrelevant now.  We are comparing rugby to US football.  They aren’t polling this ****.  

Just because they think something doesn't make it true.

I personally don't care what they think.  Certainly don't think that the folks demonstrating against this matter care what they think either.

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[Motor City Sonics]

2 minutes ago, romad1 said:

you nailed that.  That was what I was thinking.  

I probably watch at least one episode every other week to this day. 

[oblong]

1 minute ago, mtutiger said:

Just because they think something doesn't make it true.

You think Stephen Miller will wake up and change his mind because of elections?  Who do you think is going to stop them? How does a rescue of our nation play out if it happens thru normal political channels?  I don’t see any endgame where these folks are held responsible either politically, electorally, or even criminally.  

[romad1]

5 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said:

I probably watch at least one episode every other week to this day. 

I've got them on my ipad for flights.  

[romad1]

Just now, romad1 said:

I've got them on my ipad for flights.  

Did you see that Ade Edmonson was on the Alien: Earth show?  He was totally unrecognizable.  Did a good job.  

 

6 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said:

I probably watch at least one episode every other week to this day. 

 

[mtutiger]

5 minutes ago, oblong said:

You think Stephen Miller will wake up and change his mind because of elections?  

Stephen Miller absolutely could wake up without a job due to political pressure, yes. Which would likely result in scenes like the one we saw yesterday in Minneapolis maybe not happening?

I refuse to concede that nothing can  change. And absolutely nothing  is gained by conceding that things cannot change.

And saying that nothing can or will change, logically, says that all of the demonstrations and resistance we see from every day people is pointless.

Edited 16 hours ago by mtutiger

[Motor City Sonics]

Just now, romad1 said:

I've got them on my ipad for flights.  

Does anyone look over your shoulder and ask what you're laughing at.   

 

Tell me - who holds the record for most marshmallows stuffed up one's nose? 

[romad1]

2 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said:

Does anyone look over your shoulder and ask what you're laughing at.   

 

Tell me - who holds the record for most marshmallows stuffed up one's nose? 

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