Trumps Presidency 2025

[chasfh]

3 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

I think they are mutually exclusive states by definition, altough they he could know what he's doing sometimes and be unhinged at other times.  I think he knows what he is a doing at a general level, but gets frustrated by strategic details and has hissy fits when things don't go according to his plan.  

At any rate, he has always come acros as a very unimpressive person to me and it makes me sad/frustrated to see the entire country revolving around his shallow immature whims.  

 

No, "being unhinged" and "knowing what you're doing" are not mutually exclusive by necessity. "Unhinged" typically means acting wildly, unpredictably, or outside social norms, e.g., impulsive rants, bold risks, or chaotic energy. "Knowing what you're doing" implies competence, awareness, and deliberate control over your actions. Trump exhibits both.

You're going to focus on the "competence" part. Trump is not anything like competent when it comes to managing the economy, for example. A president absolutely should be competent when it comes to managing the economy. On that, we can agree. The breakdown occurs when we contemplate the difference between "should be" and "is". I would counter that managing the economy is not even his goal. Trump does not care about the economy. He cares about his own aggrandizement, control of others, and personal enrichment. He is very competent when it comes achieving those goals, and the economy is merely a tool in the service of those goals.

This line of logic may enrage you. Certainly defensible. I don't like it, either. But just because he is incompetent in something that is traditionally important for presidents but that he cares hardly a whit about, it does not follow that he must by definition be incompetent in everything else, and in every way imaginable.

Trump is unhinged. Trump also knows exactly what he is doing. It's simply bad luck that that which he knows exactly what he's doing is in an area that doesn't help the American people, or the rest of the world.

[Tiger337]

16 minutes ago, chasfh said:

No, "being unhinged" and "knowing what you're doing" are not mutually exclusive by necessity. "Unhinged" typically means acting wildly, unpredictably, or outside social norms, e.g., impulsive rants, bold risks, or chaotic energy. "Knowing what you're doing" implies competence, awareness, and deliberate control over your actions. Trump exhibits both.

You're going to focus on the "competence" part. Trump is not anything like competent when it comes to managing the economy, for example. A president absolutely should be competent when it comes to managing the economy. On that, we can agree. The breakdown occurs when we contemplate the difference between "should be" and "is". I would counter that managing the economy is not even his goal. Trump does not care about the economy. He cares about his own aggrandizement, control of others, and personal enrichment. He is very competent when it comes achieving those goals, and the economy is merely a tool in the service of those goals.

This line of logic may enrage you. Certainly defensible. I don't like it, either. But just because he is incompetent in something that is traditionally important for presidents but that he cares hardly a whit about, it does not follow that he must by definition be incompetent in everything else, and in every way imaginable.

Trump is unhinged. Trump also knows exactly what he is doing. It's simply bad luck that that which he knows exactly what he's doing is in an area that doesn't help the American people, or the rest of the world.

I am not enraged.  I am just not impressed by anything he does.  He is competent at bull**** and self promotion and manipulating people, especially ignorant and weak people.  

[Motown Bombers]

Everyone who bought one deserved to lose their money. 

 

[smr-nj]

11 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

I am not enraged.    

Well, I’m quite possibly enraged enough to cover your “non-enragement”, and at least that of 100 more.

 

[Tiger337]

14 minutes ago, smr-nj said:

Well, I’m quite possibly enraged enough to cover your “non-enragement”, and at least that of 100 more.

 

I am enraged by Trump.  I am not enraged by Chas's line of logic.    

[LaceyLou]

4 hours ago, CMRivdogs said:

 

I'd like to have one of the 1 out of 3 who feel the reasons for the war have been fully explained, to explain it to me-like I'm a four year old.