Trumps Presidency 2025

[Sports_Freak]

2 minutes ago, GalagaGuy said:

Again, he had a final order of deportation.  Take everything else out of the equation and he still wasn't supposed to be here. 

And he was still entitled to due process. Take everything out of it and it was still unconstitutional. It's why the courts ordered his return.

[Sports_Freak]

1 minute ago, GalagaGuy said:

The police bodycam was made public.  It is blatantly obvious what's going on in it. 

Do you even understand how the courts and law works? Nobody is sentenced from the videos on the news. Ever...for ANY reason. Every human being, here legally or not, is entitled to their day in court. Unless you don't believe in the constitution of these United States?

[GalagaGuy]

3 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

Do you even understand how the courts and law works? Nobody is sentenced from the videos on the news. Ever...for ANY reason. Every human being, here legally or not, is entitled to their day in court. Unless you don't believe in the constitution of these United States?

Do you even understand that he doesn't have to be convicted of human smuggling to be removed from the county based on him already having a final order of deportation?  You're speaking of him as if he's going to be exonerated in court and then live happily ever after in the USA.   

[Sports_Freak]

5 minutes ago, GalagaGuy said:

Do you even understand that he doesn't have to be convicted of human smuggling to be removed from the county based on him already having a final order of deportation?  You're speaking of him as if he's going to be exonerated in court and then live happily ever after in the USA.   

So why wasn't he arrested on the spot? And why did the Supreme Court order his return? Answer, so he could have his day in court before being deported. The law calls it due process. It's in the constitution. Fox News doesn't legally impose sentences.

This is EXACTLY why normal people see MAGA as a cult. They want to change rules to do whatever they want. And social media spreads this misinformation to the poor suckers who are fooled by constant lies.

[Sports_Freak]

Arguing with a MAGA cult member is just frustration. It's much better to ignore them until MAGA comes around for them or people they care about. If there ARE any. Then just tell them...FAFO.

[mtutiger]

Garcia, by virtue of being the one CECOT inmate that's been shipped back, has documented conditions in CECOT that are inhumane and cruel.

The arguments about whatever trumped up charges this government has brought against him are beside the point. CECOT is a concentration camp and, apparently, our government is OK shipping people there. It is unacceptable 

[chasfh]

 

54 minutes ago, GalagaGuy said:

Based on the evidence,  Garcia was running illegals into the country for his boss so I guess I'm just lost as to why I'm supposed to give a crap about him. 

Show us this evidence. 

Edited yesterday at 12:27 AM by chasfh

[Tigermojo]

3 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

Arguing with a MAGA cult member is just frustration. It's much better to ignore them until MAGA comes around for them or people they care about. If there ARE any. Then just tell them...FAFO.

I wonder how many of them were abused and the cycle of cruelty continues with each new generation.

[GalagaGuy]

3 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

So why wasn't he arrested on the spot? And why did the Supreme Court order his return? Answer, so he could have his day in court before being deported. The law calls it due process. It's in the constitution. Fox News doesn't legally impose sentences.

This is EXACTLY why normal people see MAGA as a cult. They want to change rules to do whatever they want. And social media spreads this misinformation to the poor suckers who are fooled by constant lies.

First of all I'm a Democrat and always have been.  Secondly, I am not a "poor sucker" who is "fooled by constant lies".   

Garcia has already had his day in court and was found to have no basis to be in the country.  His deportation order was halted due to concerns over his safety, that doesn't mean he was entitled to remain in the country forever.  Yes, the morons working for Trump screwed up by removing him to the one country he wasn't to be sent to but that doesn't mean he's just some innocent guy getting shafted.  

This constant advocacy from people like you over each and every person in this country illegally is why we have a convicted felon running the country.  

[GalagaGuy]

6 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

Arguing with a MAGA cult member is just frustration. It's much better to ignore them until MAGA comes around for them or people they care about. If there ARE any. Then just tell them...FAFO.

You know what dude, go F yourself.  Like I said, I am not a Trump supporter so stop being a F'ing child and labeling me as one just because you can't comprehend someone not seeing things your way. 

[chasfh]

45 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

Even people with good insurance will feel the effects of this. Hospitals will be losing so much money, they'll be forced to shut down. MAGA doesn't realize that people won't be going to a primary doctor so their problems will get worse and worse.

No worries, a regimen of ivermectin will get those red hats back on their hooves in no time. 

[chasfh]

39 minutes ago, GalagaGuy said:

Again, he had a final order of deportation.  Take everything else out of the equation and he still wasn't supposed to be here. 

I’ve been googling “did garcia have a final deportation order” and I’m coming up dry. Can you share a source with us?

[mtutiger]

7 minutes ago, GalagaGuy said:

This constant advocacy from people like you over each and every person in this country illegally is why we have a convicted felon running the country.  

Speaking of advocacy, do you advocate for this kind of treatment?

[GalagaGuy]

7 minutes ago, chasfh said:

I’ve been googling “did garcia have a final deportation order” and I’m coming up dry. Can you share a source with us?

Here's the actual court filing where it is mentioned.  This is the same document where they admit to screwing up.  

 

https://immpolicytracking.org/policies/reported-salvadoran-man-granted-withholding-mistakenly-deported-to-el-salvador-due-to-administrative-error/#/tab-policy-documents

[GalagaGuy]

4 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

Speaking of advocacy, do you advocate for this kind of treatment?

I'm sure it's not a nice place to be but why on earth would you believe anything Garcia says without proof to back it up? 

[Sports_Freak]

8 minutes ago, chasfh said:

I’ve been googling “did garcia have a final deportation order” and I’m coming up dry. Can you share a source with us?

It's Fox Lies that the weak eat up, believe and spread on their Facebook page. I just block these brain damaged idiots every time I come across them. Because of this;

 

[chasfh]

42 minutes ago, GalagaGuy said:

The police bodycam was made public.  It is blatantly obvious what's going on in it. 

I saw a video from CNN in which Garcia was being interviewed by the cop, then cut to the cop making a claim to a camera that some unnamed “he” is “running” eight people in the van, and then he speculates about finding toothbrushes on them.

What’s missing from the video is an arrest, or at least the cop confronting Garcia about the people. if this is such a smoking, hot gun, why aren’t those elements included in the video?

The video also states that the Tennessee state police flagged this stop to federal law-enforcement, who did not follow up to arrest Garcia.

I don’t see any evidence of a crime being committed here on the video. What are we missing here?

 

[chasfh]

8 minutes ago, GalagaGuy said:

Here's the actual court filing where it is mentioned.  This is the same document where they admit to screwing up.  

 

https://immpolicytracking.org/policies/reported-salvadoran-man-granted-withholding-mistakenly-deported-to-el-salvador-due-to-administrative-error/#/tab-policy-documents

I’m not sure what I am looking at in this link. Can you lead me to the part that confirms that there was a final order of deportation for Garcia? Because that’s not on the page anywhere that I can see.

[mtutiger]

8 minutes ago, GalagaGuy said:

I'm sure it's not a nice place to be but why on earth would you believe anything Garcia says without proof to back it up? 

If given the option of believing counsel for Kilmar Abrego Garcia or Nayib Bukele, tell me who you would believe

Edited yesterday at 12:52 AM by mtutiger

[Sports_Freak]

23 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

Garcia, by virtue of being the one CECOT inmate that's been shipped back, has documented conditions in CECOT that are inhumane and cruel.

The arguments about whatever trumped up charges this government has brought against him are beside the point. CECOT is a concentration camp and, apparently, our government is OK shipping people there. It is unacceptable 

And now MAGA is just building these camps on US soil. And the MAGA cult members are fine with that. Snatching anybody brown off the streets, locking them up and ignoring the constitution. Americans, undocumented migrants or whatever. They're brown and speak Spanish? Guilty!!

[chasfh]

5 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

It's Fox Lies that the weak eat up, believe and spread on their Facebook page. I just block these brain damaged idiots every time I come across them. Because of this;

 

All due respect, if you don’t mind, I’d like to hear from the guy making the claim. If you as a third party step in to answer requests like mine with responses like this, it lets the claimant off the hook to back up his claim. 

[GalagaGuy]

5 minutes ago, chasfh said:

I’m not sure what I am looking at in this link. Can you lead me to the part that confirms that there was a final order of deportation for Garcia? Because that’s not on the page anywhere that I can see.

On October 10, 2019, an IJ ordered Abrego-Garcia’s removal from the United States but granted withholding of removal to El Salvador pursuant to 8 U.S.C. § 1231(b)(3)(A). This grant of protection prohibited his removal to El Salvador.

 

[mtutiger]

11 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

If given the option of believing counsel for Kilmar Abrego Garcia or Nayib Bukele, tell me who you would believe

To be clear, there are many more individuals that we have deported to CECOT beyond Kilmar Abrego Garcia.

@GalagaGuy, does Garcia's counsel's statement seem out of line with what all CECOT deportees might be experiencing? Does that surprise you in any way shape or form given what we know about CECOT, Nayib Bukele or the current government of El Salvador?

[GalagaGuy]

Just now, mtutiger said:

To be clear, there are many more individuals that we have deported to CECOT beyond Kilmar Abrego Garcia.

@GalagaGuy, does Garcia's counsel's statement seem out of line with what all CECOT deportees might be experiencing? Does that surprise you in any way shape or form given what we know about CECOT, Nayib Bukele or the current government of El Salvador?

I believe I've already said that CECOT is most likely not a nice place to be.  Does that mean I believe anything Garcia claims about it?  Absolutely not.  

Just curious, are there any illegal immigrants in the country right now that you would actually support getting rid of? 

[Tiger337]

2 minutes ago, GalagaGuy said:

I believe I've already said that CECOT is most likely not a nice place to be.  Does that mean I believe anything Garcia claims about it?  Absolutely not.  

Just curious, are there any illegal immigrants in the country right now that you would actually support getting rid of? 

I would support sending proven violent criminals to prisons that are not torture prisons.