Trumps Presidency 2025

[GalagaGuy]

4 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

Yeah, the article made it worse. He was born in the US and had a birth certificate and yet he was still detained for 26 days and not given the same rights as people who were arrested. It still doesn't explain why this kid was such a high priority.  

See, now I know you're just looking for a reason to be outraged and aren't interested in the facts of the case.  The dude was traveling on a tourist visa that said he was born in Mexico.  To top it off, both documents had different names on them.   So law enforcement is just supposed to ignore all of that and let the kid go? 

Go ahead and paint whatever narrative you want, but given the facts, along with the article saying that a girl with no documentation wasn't detained, your narrative doesn't hold water. 

[Motown Bombers]

2 minutes ago, GalagaGuy said:

See, now I know you're just looking for a reason to be outraged and aren't interested in the facts of the case.  The dude was traveling on a tourist visa that said he was born in Mexico.  To top it off, both documents had different names on them.   So law enforcement is just supposed to ignore all of that and let the kid go? 

Go ahead and paint whatever narrative you want, but given the facts, along with the article saying that a girl with no documentation wasn't detained, your narrative doesn't hold water. 

No, per the article YOU provided, he said he was born in Dallas and even provided a social security card and birth certificate. 

"When officials questioned Galicia, he told them he was born in Dallas. He also produced a Texas ID, a Social Security card and a copy of a wallet-sized birth certificate."

Even when presented with more documentation, they still wouldn't release him.

"Finally, she hired Galan, who says that on July 12, she drove to the Rio Grande Border Patrol station with a copy of Galicia's full birth certificate, hospital birth records, his Texas Medicaid card and a student ID. Still, CBP officials said they could not release Galicia."

I'm assuming the different names are of the mother and not of the kid.

"She explained confusion over Galicia's nationality stemmed from a tourist visa issued when he was a child and the fact that his mother used an assumed name on Francisco's birth certificate."

Ok, errors happen, but they were provided overwhelming documentation and still wouldn't release him. Why did it take 26 days, and what would have happened if the lawyer didn't intervene? From the article you posted:

""However," she said, "[CBP] has access to a database where they can check that Francisco was born here in the U.S. It shouldn't have been a problem. They shouldn't have kept him for 26 days just to confirm that he was a natural born citizen."

Lets look at the real reason he was detained, per you article:

"Galan noted Galicia's prolonged detention and near-deportation comes on the heels of a move by the Trump administration to expand fast-track deportation regulations to include the removal of undocumented immigrants who cannot prove they have been in the U.S. continuously for two years or more."

The same thing is happening today, but even worse. Why was it so important to detain this kid for nearly a month when he had all the documentation? Literally the opposite of undocumented. There is no justification for how this went down. 

[oblong]

Imagine strenuously defending this.  If his name was Gerlica instead of Galicia and his family was from Ireland, I'm pretty sure he wouldn't have been in detention for 26 days.  

 

[GalagaGuy]

None of this happens if the kids mother doesn't fraudulently obtain a Visa that contains false information for the kid. 

[GalagaGuy]

4 minutes ago, oblong said:

Imagine strenuously defending this.  If his name was Gerlica instead of Galicia and his family was from Ireland, I'm pretty sure he wouldn't have been in detention for 26 days.  

 

Here you go.  I'll be here waiting for the goalposts to move again. 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/19/canadian-detained-us-immigration-jasmine-mooney

 

 

[GalagaGuy]

And then you can move them again.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2025/06/27/canadian-citizen-dies-ice-custody/84383384007/

[Motown Bombers]

 

1 minute ago, GalagaGuy said:

Here you go.  I'll be here waiting for the goalposts to move again. 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/19/canadian-detained-us-immigration-jasmine-mooney

 

 

Yes, Trump 2.0 is even worse than 1.0. Thanks for clearing that up. 

[GalagaGuy]

And if you have anything left, give this one a shot.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/nh-green-card-holder-denied-reentry-canada-trump-rcna218345

[Motown Bombers]

I like how Galaga has gone so off the rails he is posting links about all the people being killed in ICE custody as some sort of gotcha. 

[GalagaGuy]

Just now, Motown Bombers said:

 

Yes, Trump 2.0 is even worse than 1.0. Thanks for clearing that up. 

Immigration laws are immigration laws.  Nobody has the right to be in a country without authorization and just because one administration looks the other way doesn't mean the next one will.  

 

[GalagaGuy]

Just now, Motown Bombers said:

I like how Galaga has gone so off the rails he is posting links about all the people being killed in ICE custody as some sort of gotcha. 

Was he "brown"?  That's what you and others are implying here, that only "brown" people are being targeted.   The only person "off the rails" in my mind are people like you that obviously want open borders and no immigration laws at all. 

[Motown Bombers]

"Noviello is the 10th person to die in ICE custody during fiscal year 2025, which runs from October, according to the agency's data. Those deaths include a Haitian woman who spent more than 10 weeks in immigration custody and was held in allegedly inhumane conditions."

I feel so totally owned. One of the ten people ICE killed so far is Canadian. 

[oblong]

"Officer, I wasn't speeding, I was going 45 in the 45 zone"

"No, I think you were speeding. I'm going to lock you up for a month until we figure this out"

Person wasn't indeed speeding.

GalagaGuy - "That's ok, we have traffic laws"

Great logic there fella. 

 

[Tiger337]

1 minute ago, GalagaGuy said:

Here you go.  I'll be here waiting for the goalposts to move again. 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/19/canadian-detained-us-immigration-jasmine-mooney

 

 

That was wrong too.  There were a bunch of other women detained along with her at the same time, all of them held for weeks for no good reason. They let her go before the others because her story got promoted in the media.  It helps being a white woman

 

[LaceyLou]

Yes, because obviously you either have to support ICE completely or want completely open borders and no immigration laws because there's nothing in between. 

I guess some of us are just guilty of the 'sin of empathy,' yes?

[chasfh]

35 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

Yeah, the article made it worse. He was born in the US and had a birth certificate and yet he was still detained for 26 days and not given the same rights as people who were arrested. It still doesn't explain why this kid was such a high priority.  

Flip side, it's jail, and being crammed into a cell with 60 other men and sleeping on the floor with aluminum blankets and not getting enough food and not being allowed to shower and losing 26 pounds in 23 days and being told "you don't have rights to anything" is totally normal, and what did he endure that's any different from anyone who is sent to jail

[Motown Bombers]

3 minutes ago, GalagaGuy said:

Immigration laws are immigration laws.  Nobody has the right to be in a country without authorization and just because one administration looks the other way doesn't mean the next one will.  

 

And the kid wasn't in the country illegally, provided proof, and still wasn't released. He wasn't given due process and kept in deplorable conditions. It's not how the US is supposed to operate. BTW, Obama deported more people than Trump so no the previous administration didn't look the other way. 

[chasfh]

12 minutes ago, GalagaGuy said:

Here you go.  I'll be here waiting for the goalposts to move again. 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/19/canadian-detained-us-immigration-jasmine-mooney

 

 

Cool story. What does the data say?

[chasfh]

3 minutes ago, LaceyLou said:

Yes, because obviously you either have to support ICE completely or want completely open borders and no immigration laws because there's nothing in between. 

I guess some of us are just guilty of the 'sin of empathy,' yes?

Sinner.

https://www.desiringgod.org/articles/the-enticing-sin-of-empathy

[GalagaGuy]

2 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

That was wrong too.  There were a bunch of other women detained along with her at the same time, all of them held for weeks for no good reason. They let her go before the others because her story got promoted in the media.  It helps being a white woman

 

How was it wrong?  Can you provide the specifics of her case that lead you to believe it should have never happened or are you just defaulting to immigration officials being in the wrong on every single case you read about? 

[oblong]

nazis gonna nazi

[GalagaGuy]

1 minute ago, chasfh said:

Cool story. What does the data say?

The data says that the large majority of illegal immigrants come from Mexico and South America.  

Now I have a question for you.  That being the case, where do you think the large majority of people being rounded up in these operations are going to be from? 

[Motown Bombers]

It does seem like the Canadian woman was wrongfully detained. Ironically, if she entered via Canada she wouldn't have been detained. Her case was presented as there is no racial bias and it seems the only reason she was detained was because she entered through Mexico. Irony.

"Eagles said Jasmine obtained a three-year work visa for the U.S. last spring and had been living in Los Angeles, working in marketing communications. According to Eagles, Mooney came back to Canada for a visit in November and when she tried to return to the States, her visa was revoked and she was denied entry.

Eagles is less clear on what happened next, but said that Mooney then got "some sort of consulting visa application."

"She attempted to return to the States with the new visa, and she had already been flagged so they just detained her," Eagles said.

"As we understand it, it's because she was entering via Mexico … we believe that had she been entering, tried to enter directly through Canada, they would have just turned her around."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/canadian-detained-us-border-1.7483021

[GalagaGuy]

3 minutes ago, oblong said:

nazis gonna nazi

Very telling that you ignore the article I post and just continue with the childish name calling.   

[Motown Bombers]

Just now, GalagaGuy said:

Very telling that you ignore the article I post and just continue with the childish name calling.   

I mean, if the swastika fits...