Trumps Presidency 2025

[GalagaGuy]

8 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

Can you please show us where the US government directed removal these

Just stop with the nonsense, you know damn well this has been going on for months now.  

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cz03gjnxe25o

[Sports_Freak]

MAGA being cruel to try and score political points. And they wonder why democrats call them deplorables?

https://news.yahoo.com/articles/trump-administration-tells-states-undo-155333628.html

[Tigeraholic1]

Speaking of BBC 

 

[Sports_Freak]

47 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said:

Next Arch and MAGA will tell us Ken Burns is too woke. 

Woke....this was in the Free Press today. A perfect definition of woke;

 

 

[CMRivdogs]

24 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

Can you please show us where the US government directed removal these

Try reading the article 

[chasfh]

1 hour ago, mtutiger said:

Am sure you agree, but this may be part of why conservatives fight the statue thing so hard: having to deal with the actual historical accounts requires being confronted with the morality (or lack therof) of the southern cause.

Have been reading Ron Chernow's biography of Ulysses Grant so this subject is top of mind. 

Yes, but also, it forces them to have to read, and that hurts the head.

[chasfh]

1 hour ago, CMRivdogs said:

Next Arch and MAGA will tell us Ken Burns is too woke. 

That's what all of MAGA is going to hammer us with starting next week. They will use the opportunity yo celebrate the defunding of public media so they never have to be confronted with such truthful accounts ever again.

[chasfh]

1 hour ago, mtutiger said:

This whole "statues as history" thing is primarily an American phenomena and, IMO, a way to avoid having to grapple with the moral implications of the actual historical record. It's both cowardly and a factor in why everything is *gesture's hands wildly* the way that it is right now.

Yes, this, but also, statues to Confederate traitors helps prop up their argument that they are not traitors after all, but rather, low-key American heroes being left for dead by the woke mob.

[Tigeraholic1]

18 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said:

Try reading the article 

I did can you show me were it was directed by anyone? No matter the reason they should not be removed. 

[chasfh]

33 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

This should wake up ALL Americans;

 

So I read the tweet you post up to "Show more", and when I read at the end that "history is speaking to us, and all too often, those who refuse to learn from it are ...", I couldn't resist finishing it in my head as "... hoping to profit from it."

Because that's why they're going all in on it.

[romad1]

1 hour ago, mtutiger said:

It's not even the first time I've asked this question! Pretty sure when this subject was more prominent in 2020, I asked it then as well... and didn't get much of a response from Stanpapi or whoever was engaging at the time.

European countries aren't perfect and have their own internal issues, but if one has ever been to any of them, one realizes that they didn't just preserve the statues of the losers and (often) evil figures of their history. Certainly didn't see any statues from the Third Reich while traveling in Germany some eight years ago, for instance. 

This whole "statues as history" thing is primarily an American phenomena and, IMO, a way to avoid having to grapple with the moral implications of the actual historical record. It's both cowardly and a factor in why everything is *gesture's hands wildly* the way that it is right now.

The Stasi museum in Leipzig (i think that's right) is a memorial to their evil.  Its not some, "Pop Pop was a good soldier for Karl Marx" nonsense. 

[1984Echoes]

55 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

... is the clean CR that democrats refuse to pass with the six required votes. Full stop end of story. 

The clean CR that you want to pass is NOT passing the Dems this time because it ****S Americans.

You want the CR passed specifically because you enjoy ****ing over Americans.

Full stop. End of story.

[chasfh]

28 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

Speaking of BBC 

 

Good. Journalism should be held accountable to the truth. Too bad there's an entire RWM ecosystem here that completely ignores such accountability standards. 

 

[CMRivdogs]

1 hour ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

Can you please show us where the US government directed removal these

To pick your nit...

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Professor Kees Ribbens, senior researcher at the NIOD Institute for War, Holocaust and Genocide Studies, says that the removal appears to be the result of a complaint from the right-wing Heritage Foundation, which is currently the focus of controversy over anti-Semitism.

He says: "In March, a complaint against the [American Battle Monuments Commission] appeared on the website of The Heritage Foundation, a conservative American think tank."

"[The memorial] allegedly evaded Trump's executive order to halt policies promoting diversity and inclusion." /end

To extrapolate a bit. The Heritage Foundation (while not an official agency but a major policy decision maker for the Trump Administration)  made complaint based on an executive order from the President. If you connect the dots someone in the Presidents orbit told someone  important in tie American Battlefields Commission.

Not a direct order but close enough. Especially considering some of the drivel you link to

Edited 1 hour ago by CMRivdogs

[Sports_Freak]

1 hour ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

 The non moving goal post is the clean CR that democrats refuse to pass with the six required votes. Full stop end of story. 

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/live-updates/government-shutdown-live-updates/?id=127124906

[mtutiger]

1 hour ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

 The non moving goal post is the clean CR that democrats refuse to pass with the six required votes. Full stop end of story. 

If the party that controls the Senate wants to find a way to reopen the government, they should probably start by trying to do things to win the requisite votes to reopen the government. Or if they are so inclined, maybe they should just nuke the filibuster if it's so damned important.

Either way, it's on them to figure it out. Hence why the majority of Americans place the blame solely at the feet of Trump and the GOP.

[Tigeraholic1]

28 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said:

Not a direct order 

Thanks for confirming. 

[Tigeraholic1]

6 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

If the party that controls the Senate wants to find a way to reopen the government, they should probably start by trying to do things to win the requisite votes to reopen the government. Or if they are so inclined, maybe they should just nuke the filibuster if it's so damned important.

Either way, it's on them to figure it out. Hence why the majority of Americans place the blame solely at the feet of Trump and the GOP.

It’s a tired tune. The democrats have been blocking the CR. They have used the word leverage so many times there are montages of it.

[Tigeraholic1]

55 minutes ago, chasfh said:

Good. Journalism should be held accountable to the truth. Too bad there's an entire RWM ecosystem here that completely ignores such accountability standards. 

 

So you are equating BBC to RW ecosystem? I guarantee you this never comes to light if Trump was not re-elected. Same for the revelation that the pipe bomb planter was allegedly a capital police officer.

Edited 1 hour ago by Tigeraholic1

[CMRivdogs]

So it wasn't a real story after all ? Typical MAGA

 

[Sports_Freak]

12 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

It’s a tired tune. The democrats have been blocking the CR. They have used the word leverage so many times there are montages of it.

So you're fine with millions of people not renewing their unaffordable health care plans? Even if it means most hospitals and clinics will have to close?

[Sports_Freak]

On 11/8/2025 at 10:47 AM, Motown Bombers said:

 

Instead, he's getting this;

 

[mtutiger]

47 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

It’s a tired tune. The democrats have been blocking the CR. They have used the word leverage so many times there are montages of it.

Again, sounds like the party in power should pivot to a strategy that would win the requisite support to reopen government. Instead of flapping their gums and whining about how governing is hard

Edited 20 minutes ago by mtutiger

[Tigeraholic1]

47 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

So you're fine with millions of people not renewing their unaffordable health care plans? Even if it means most hospitals and clinics will have to close?

Most Hospitals and clinics will close? 🤣

[Tigeraholic1]

15 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

Again, sounds like the party in power should pivot to a strategy that would win the requisite support to reopen government. Instead of flapping their gums and whining about how governing is hard

Sounds like we are about to find out!