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29 minutes ago, GalagaGuy said:

Wild that the refs missed this hold on the game winning TD.  

 

Would he have made that sack if the hold didn't occur? Maybe. It didn't become a hold until the LG slipped, and by then the QB was moving.

If the answer to that question is not an unequivocal yes though, I think no call is the correct call in that situation.

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Just now, MichiganCardinal said:

Would he have made that sack if the hold didn't occur? Maybe. It didn't become a hold until the LG slipped, and by then the QB was moving.

If the answer to that question is not an unequivocal yes though, I think no call is the correct call in that situation.

He literally grabs him by the leg and pulls him to the ground.  That's holding under any interpretation of the rule.  

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Just now, GalagaGuy said:

He literally grabs him by the leg and pulls him to the ground.  That's holding under any interpretation of the rule.  

We've all heard the phrase "there's holding on every play" though. Whether that is literally true or not, some holding gets called and some doesn't.

I'm okay with this not being called. I am not convinced it had an impact on the play.

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5 minutes ago, MichiganCardinal said:

We've all heard the phrase "there's holding on every play" though. Whether that is literally true or not, some holding gets called and some doesn't.

I'm okay with this not being called. I am not convinced it had an impact on the play.

I agree that there are probably holding calls on every play that a ref could call if he was a stickler for the rules but this one is blatant and I think that if he gets in clean, there's no way the QB has the time he needed to find the receiver in the end zone.  

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On 9/13/2025 at 12:40 PM, Deleterious said:

I can't see anyone leaving the Big Ten unless they are kicked out.  They make too much money being a member.

0-12 is a legit possibility for UCLA this year.

This is true.

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Michigan would obviously want a bigger piece as well.  PSU probably could demand it too.  But IMO, this would be the beginning of the end for the Big Ten.  Pretty much how Texas torpedoed the Big 12.

 

Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, Deleterious said:

Michigan would obviously want a bigger piece as well.  PSU probably could demand it too.  But IMO, this would be the 

 

 

Your point about no weak sister ever leaving the B10 by choice is the right one. And IIRC, the charter makes it almost impossible to force a school out. So the way I would read it is that is that only choice if the OSU's and PSU's and UM's want to keep more of their own revenue is for them to leave the conference. 

Now, I suppose all things are negotiable - if the top schools seriously threatened to leave maybe the other schools would rather acquiesce to a charter revision than see the remnants of their conference become net unprofitable. Hard to say how it might break.

 

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3 hours ago, Deleterious said:

Michigan would obviously want a bigger piece as well.  PSU probably could demand it too.  But IMO, this would be the beginning of the end for the Big Ten.  Pretty much how Texas torpedoed the Big 12.

 

click bait.  he didnt really say anything like that.

but in 2030 when the tv deals are up, all bets are off.  the real thing from that article - and has been mentioned here - is how much new revenue they are going to need to pay the players.

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13 minutes ago, buddha said:

click bait.  he didnt really say anything like that.

but in 2030 when the tv deals are up, all bets are off.  the real thing from that article - and has been mentioned here - is how much new revenue they are going to need to pay the players.

assuming the TV deals hold until then. We don't know what's in those contracts. Can the carriers walk away if the top teams do? Just a swag here but given all the conference re-alignments I wouldn't think a broadcaster would sign a conference deal that wasn't contingent on who stayed in the conference. There is certainly a lot of pull to keep the traditional rivalries and conference identifications (and the convenience of being able to pad your schedule with sure wins!), but if money gets tight will all that matter enough even before 2030?

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The original USA Today interview had this quote.  So yeah, they are already positioning to get more money than other schools in the conference.

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Asked whether that should translate into something different in terms of revenue share, Carter said:

“It doesn't matter what Ted Carter thinks. I think that's going to be a conversation that will be had over time.”

 

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This weeks ratings

  1. Georgia-Tennessee (ABC): 12.600M
  2. Florida-LSU (ABC): 7.600M
  3. Texas A&M-Notre Dame (NBC): 5.800M
  4. Clemson-Georgia Tech (ESPN): 4.800M
  5. Wisconsin-Alabama (ABC): 4.500M
  6. Colorado-Houston (ESPN, Fri): 2.900M
  7. Oregon-Northwestern (FOX): 2.278M
  8. Pitt-West Virginia (ESPN): 1.708M
  9. Kansas State-Arizona (FOX, Fri): 1.625M
  10. Arkansas-Ole Miss (ESPN): 1.432M

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