2025 NCAA Football Thread

[gehringer_2]

1 hour ago, Deleterious said:

Giving a **** how people spend their own money isn't high on my list of things to care about.

Not the point at all. It's the the opportunity cost to the overall higher education enterprise in the US. Just another case of something that used to be useful becoming another bread and circuses immateriality. Higher ed is just about the last thing in this world we are still good at in the US. Once we **** that up we will can get in line round about the level of Venezuela.

Edited October 29 by gehringer_2

[buddha]

31 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

Not the point at all. It's the the opportunity cost to the overall higher education enterprise in the US. Just another case of something that used to be useful becoming another bread and circuses immateriality. Higher ed is just about the last thing in this world we are still good at in the US. Once we **** that up we will can get in line round about the level of Venezuela.

its really cute that you think that donor would have contemplated giving the university those millions of dollars for anything other than the football team.  🙂

[MichiganCardinal]

2 hours ago, Deleterious said:

Giving a **** how people spend their own money isn't high on my list of things to care about.

Me either, but to @gehringer_2 point, I don’t think these are individuals approaching LSU and saying “I will write you a blank check to fire your coach.”

More likely, the Athletic Department is approaching the individuals they know who could do this and propose them being the impetus behind a new direction.

To that end, those individuals are not likely be to be seriously swayed by the description of the ask. Whether it’s “we want $52MM to fire our coach” or “we want $52MM for a new hard sciences wing” — even to the extent they would, someone willing to spend $52MM to fire Kelly would probably be willing to spend $25MM on an indoor field house for non-revenue sports…. But maybe not $77MM to both fire Kelly and build that indoor field house.

I generally don’t think a state university paying any(!) employee tens of millions to do nothing and go work elsewhere because they were deemed to be a bad hire in the first place is a bad use of funds, regardless of the spin used to sell the use of those funds after the fact.

[gehringer_2]

1 hour ago, buddha said:

its really cute that you think that donor would have contemplated giving the university those millions of dollars for anything other than the football team.  🙂

Have you seen the UM endowment? $20 billion  - so maybe half of that is appreciation - that $10 billion in non-football giving. If you think university donors are all and only about sport you need to wake up and smell the rest of the green. And that's what crap like $20M NCAA fines and ridiculous coach buyouts help put at risk.

Edited October 30 by gehringer_2

[buddha]

43 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

Have you seen the UM endowment? $20 billion  - so maybe half of that is appreciation - that $10 billion in non-football giving. If you think university donors are all and only about sport you need to wake up and smell the rest of the green. And that's what crap like $20M NCAA fines and ridiculous coach buyouts help put at risk.

sir, we're talking about LSU.

[gehringer_2]

23 minutes ago, buddha said:

sir, we're talking about LSU.

LOL - OK, you got me there.

[Motor City Sonics]

The Governor of Louisiana spending any time or energy firing or picking football coaches kind of makes you understand one of the reasons that Louisiana is considered the worst or usually bottom 4 states to live in.  

Every passing year I pay less attention to college sports  - because it's just so disgusting.     You've got people that starting Saturday aren't going to know where or how they're getting food, and states are spending money to pay off fired football coaches for not reaching unrealistic expectations.     As far as this idea that the buyout won't come from state money - do you really believe that?  I sure don't.   

 

I don't care about Brian Kelly, he's a piece of **** of a human, but he gets millions and someone  will give him more and he'll keep being a piece of ****.   The thought of Declan Sullivan's parents apologizing to Notre Dame is just so twisted. 

[casimir]

Somebody has to let Gus Johnson know that he’s wearing too many patterns today.  I’m sure there’ll be a meme for it within moments.

[gehringer_2]

On 10/29/2025 at 9:21 PM, buddha said:

sir, we're talking about LSU.

I would also note that PSU, which actually is a pretty good school and certainly could put the money to better use, paid a bundle to get out from under Franklin. Apparently a Congresscritter introduced a bill to cap public university coach compensation liabilities recently but I imagine it's DOA. Still that fact that it's gotten to where that happened at all isn't a good look.

[buddha]

1 hour ago, gehringer_2 said:

I would also note that PSU, which actually is a pretty good school and certainly could put the money to better use, paid a bundle to get out from under Franklin. Apparently a Congresscritter introduced a bill to cap public university coach compensation liabilities recently but I imagine it's DOA. Still that fact that it's gotten to where that happened at all isn't a good look.

again, youre making a big assumption that the money would have been used for anything else other than sports.

[Motor City Sonics]

Is Indiana better than Ohio State?   

 

I don't really think Ohio State has been tested this year.   Texas has been their only real test this year - and they really didn't blow them away at home. 

 

 

[Deleterious]

MSU got screwed there.  Nobody but the WR can tell if his jersey being pulled slowed him down or not.  That has to be called.

[casimir]

8 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said:

Is Indiana better than Ohio State?   

 

I don't really think Ohio State has been tested this year.   Texas has been their only real test this year - and they really didn't blow them away at home. 

 

 

Its possible that Indiana is better than Ohio State.  Its possible 2025 Ohio State might be better than 2024 Ohio State.  Its possible both of those sentences are true.

[casimir]

Just now, Deleterious said:

MSU got screwed there.  Nobody but the WR can tell if his jersey being pulled slowed him down or not.  That has to be called.

They did.  Cause a turnover and get out of there.

[Deleterious]

That is not a TD

[buddha]

cant overturn that call.  cant tell where the ball was when he stepped out.

[gehringer_2]

5 hours ago, buddha said:

again, youre making a big assumption that the money would have been used for anything else other than sports.

at this point whether it would have been is not even so much the issue as whether it should have been. The big laugh in the PSU story was that the funds were 'only' coming from the Athletic dept, not the general fund. Of course if the AD had a surplus instead of a deficit, where would it have gone? At M at least the AD returns surpluses to the GF for general student programs. All dollars are fungible - always.

[Motor City Sonics]

That call in the MSU game.  I don't know, I feel like that needs to be investigated.    Total screw job by the refs there.  And the call comes a minute after the play?   Somethin' ain't right. 

[casimir]

How could we forget the PAC-2 championship is tonight?
 

Beavers or Cougars, who ya got?

Edited November 2 by casimir

[buddha]

3 hours ago, gehringer_2 said:

at this point whether it would have been is not even so much the issue as whether it should have been. The big laugh in the PSU story was that the funds were 'only' coming from the Athletic dept, not the general fund. Of course if the AD had a surplus instead of a deficit, where would it have gone? At M at least the AD returns surpluses to the GF for general student programs. All dollars are fungible - always.

apparently the california pension fund is going to bail them all out....except michigan said no.

[Motor City Sonics]

You do have to wonder about some of these calls - how legit this whole thing it is.   Purdue got jobbed a few times last night, but there were some strange calls that went against Blue too. 

 

But that Florida call..........Wow.     And the MSU picked-up flag.   Sound familiar Lions fans?  Something VERY fishy going on there.   I know a player's jersey can flap in the wind, but not 3 feet into the hand of a defender.     But maybe Jonathan Smith paid off the refs so he'd get fired and could take the UCLA job.   

[Deleterious]

 

[Deleterious]

 

[Deleterious]

The coaching fraternity is so sleazy.  

 

[Deleterious]

James Carville hiring a DC law firm to sue LSU.  Sounds about right.