2025 NCAA Football Thread

[gehringer_2]

5 hours ago, Deleterious said:

 

nobody wants to watch, or carry, Indiana. Good team, no audience draw.

[Shelton]

On 11/19/2025 at 3:11 PM, gehringer_2 said:

Yup. We've talked about it before, the fans tend to be very short horizon, what the schools realize that fans don't is that you put together one conference of all the perennial top 20 teams, half of them will start losing half their games, and I don't think that's an appealing future for a Michigan or a Clemson. In the heyday of the Yankees being the Yankees, was when the Senators were being the Senators. Someone has to willing the be the Northwesterns of a new super league and I don't imagine any one is.

I think schools at the “top” of their conferences aren’t actually under the illusion that they are a contender just because they are at the top though. I think we might be surprised what fans/schools will tolerate. But I think it’s incredibly hard to know for sure unless you do it. 
 

Speaking only for myself, but I have become incredibly disinterested in college football. I don’t think it’s because of NIL or greed or whatever. I just find the games so boring now, and I think it’s mostly because there only a couple per year worth caring about for your team. 
 

Since when did it become necessary to pay 12 games and judge success by only losing once? It’s not fun or interesting to have close to 10 games already decided before the season even starts. I think the big matchups interest people because the teams are both good, not because they both happen to have gone 8-0 or 7-1 against scrubs.

I would love to see them try to create a 14 team super league and play a 13 week round robin and then have a small playoff at the end. Maybe we would even get an interesting matchup that kicks off before the sun goes down. 

[Tiger337]

I've re-developed a shallow interest in Notre Dame football.  Should I be ashamed of myself?  

[buddha]

43 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

I've re-developed a shallow interest in Notre Dame football.  Should I be ashamed of myself?  

yes.  you are bad and should feel bad.

[4hzglory]

1 hour ago, Tiger337 said:

I've re-developed a shallow interest in Notre Dame football.  Should I be ashamed of myself?  

Welcome to the light 🤪. I was actually never a fan until my son went there.

[Tiger337]

1 hour ago, buddha said:

yes.  you are bad and should feel bad.

What if I told you that we are going to the championship game again this year and this time we are going to kick THE Ohio States ass all over Hard Rock stadium? 

[Deleterious]

One of you rich guys send a private plane from Oxford to Happy Valley.

 

[Hongbit]

Ole Miss cant really believe that Lane Kiffin is going to be their coach next year for $9M.   I think he likes it there and would stay if they gave him a deal that pays him in the top 4 of coaches.  If not, they will absolutely be looking for a new coach next year.  

[buddha]

3 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

What if I told you that we are going to the championship game again this year and this time we are going to kick THE Ohio States ass all over Hard Rock stadium? 

i dislike notre dame almost as much as ohio state.  so i would do what i did last year and root for death.

[Deleterious]

 

[Deleterious]

SEC has 7 of the top 10.  Big Ten only has OSU at #7 with 5.49 million per game.

Michigan is #13 at 4.1 million.

 

[buddha]

the perils of being on 56 different channels...

[buddha]

just to follow up on that, what marquee matchups has the big ten had this year in conference?

ohio state has played no one.  michigan has played usc and that's it.  penn state was a flop this year.

indiana-oregon?  what other big game has there been?

NEXT year michigan gets oklahoma, penn state, indiana, oregon, washington, and ohio state.  their ratings will be much higher.

its also why were going to end up with a super league.  ohio state-texas draws 16 million.  ohio-state-michigan draws 19 million.  michigan-oklahoma draws 9 million.

no one gives a **** about purdue or northwestern.  theyve become a drag on the conference.

[gehringer_2]

27 minutes ago, buddha said:

NEXT year michigan gets oklahoma, penn state, indiana, oregon, washington, and ohio state.  their ratings will be much higher.

well, they will be if they don't end up 2-4 in those matchups....

more seriously, that was the question of some posts upthread: Is it the schools that matter or the quality of play, or is it more complex than that? Schools build an audience based on a consistently high level of play - the momentum from that can probably sustain them throough multiple poor years before their audience base would fall away, but the flip side of that is nobody cares about Indiana. If they win the conference enough times we assume that changes? But how long does that shift take? Michigan, USC and OSU have decades behind them.

Edited Friday at 11:05 PM by gehringer_2

[4hzglory]

1 hour ago, buddha said:

i dislike notre dame almost as much as ohio state.  so i would do what i did last year and root for death.

And I am the complete nemesis of most on here as I grew up an Ohio State fan and still am, but am now more a ND fan.  So last year was a lot of fun.

[buddha]

1 hour ago, gehringer_2 said:

well, they will be if they don't end up 2-4 in those matchups....

more seriously, that was the question of some posts upthread: Is it the schools that matter or the quality of play, or is it more complex than that? Schools build an audience based on a consistently high level of play - the momentum from that can probably sustain them throough multiple poor years before their audience base would fall away, but the flip side of that is nobody cares about Indiana. If they win the conference enough times we assume that changes? But how long does that shift take? Michigan, USC and OSU have decades behind them.

dont know.  winning breeds fans.

i do think the derth in quality big ten games and the number of different channels big ten games are spread across (and that espn is not one of them) hurts their ratings a big.

undefeated ohio state and 2 loss michigan playing for a shot at the big ten championship game should get pretty good ratings.

undefeated ohio state and undefeated indiana in that championship game should also do well.

[Deleterious]

 

[GalagaGuy]

 

[MichiganCardinal]

No one cares but me, but this feels oh so sweet.

Side bar, I think Andrew Luck will be the Stanford Head Coach next season.