buddha Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, gehringer_2 said: something tells me this is going to get ugly. I've watched this dynamic before, where the weaker/poorer members of an organization try to dictate to the stronger/richer because they think they have voting numbers. It almost always turns out poorly. Think UM or USC would be welcome in the ACC or SEC? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ That is such a shady deal. i hope michigan doesnt cave like they did with the ncaa. their recent history is to talk loud and then back off. those are public institutions with governance structures who are responsible - in theory - to the people of the state who provide the financing for those schools (except northwestern and usc) to sell off future assets like that without their approval should not be legally possible. they should file an injunction. i'm really surprised ohio state is going along with this; although their finances are worse than michigan's, i believe. penn state is deep into a stadium renovation. everyone else other than usc needs cash. Quote
Deleterious Posted 1 hour ago Author Posted 1 hour ago That type of deal probably kills the super league talk. Maybe OSU sees value by remaining a big fish in a small pond. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted 26 minutes ago Posted 26 minutes ago (edited) 1 hour ago, buddha said: i'm really surprised ohio state is going along with this; although their finances are worse than michigan's, i believe. IDK. UM athletic dept was in the hole because of the fines but OSU is generally the conference income leader aren't they? I guess if you blow through it all it doesn't matter what your income is! At UM, with Grasso being an interim, plus a guy with no major college sports experience anyway, I don't see him with a big personal interest in his own sports legacy - IOW, I don't think he's likely to try to push the regents one way or the if they make a decision. But who knows? OTOH, I don't suppose any of the Regents want to go down as the 'guy that blew up the Big Ten" even if that exactly the kind of thing that all this is driving inevitably towards. Edited 20 minutes ago by gehringer_2 Quote
buddha Posted 18 minutes ago Posted 18 minutes ago 4 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: IDK. UM athletic dept was in the hole because of the fines but OSU is generally the conference income leader aren't they? I guess if you blow through it all it doesn't matter what your income is! osu is deep underwater. you like to take shots at michigan - many of them warranted - but osu is like $25 million in the hole every year. psu is deep underwater because of the stadium rebuild. michigan's finances are better than both, i believe. and in principle, michigan is correct: this is a short term payday loan to bail out those who cannot manage their finances. except this time its public institutions and they play by different rules. so......michigan, usc, and notre dame to the sec? or to the acc? does a big ten with only ohio state, penn state, and....oregon? make more money than an acc with notre dame, michigan, usc, florida state, and north carolina? Quote
buddha Posted 18 minutes ago Posted 18 minutes ago and if michigan bolted the big ten with usc and notre dame, would penn state leave and return to its eastern roots? Quote
gehringer_2 Posted 16 minutes ago Posted 16 minutes ago 1 minute ago, buddha said: and if michigan bolted the big ten with usc and notre dame, would penn state leave and return to its eastern roots? LOL - if you are Penn state at this point wouldn't you rather play Pitt than Indiana? Quote
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