2025 MLB Thread

[IdahoBert]

17 hours ago, Motor City Sonics said:

Does anybody think about the possibility of these pitchers accused of gambling might have been threatened into it? 

 

And if they were,  they can't say anything because their families might be under threat back at home.

Wondered about that. Clase was doing pretty well contract wise. Why would you need more unless there was some sort of experimental rat hitting the pleasure button thrill to being involved in it? 

[holygoat]

LMAO!

 

[Motor City Sonics]

Wow, East Coast-Bias strikes again. 

Sure, you can throw numbers at me all day, but Cal Raleigh is a freaking CATCHER and put up those numbers.  To me, that should change the dynamic dramatically.     Catchers putting up numbers like that is just insane.  

[Tigermojo]

29 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said:

Wow, East Coast-Bias strikes again. 

Sure, you can throw numbers at me all day, but Cal Raleigh is a freaking CATCHER and put up those numbers.  To me, that should change the dynamic dramatically.     Catchers putting up numbers like that is just insane.  

Raleigh had a .248 BABIP. Robbed by the baseball gods.

[Tiger337]

On 11/11/2025 at 12:53 PM, IdahoBert said:

Wondered about that. Clase was doing pretty well contract wise. Why would you need more unless there was some sort of experimental rat hitting the pleasure button thrill to being involved in it? 

Probably for the same reasons that many multi-millionaire businessmen scam people.  

[lordstanley]

2 voters - one from Cleveland, one from KC - put Riley Greene on their All Star ballot. 

 

Edited yesterday at 04:16 AM by lordstanley

[Tiger337]

7 minutes ago, lordstanley said:

2 voters - one from Cleveland, one from KC - put Riley Greene on their All Star ballot. 

 

The writers still like the RBI.  It shows that he is clutch.  

[oblong]

they don't get paid to bunt. they get paid to drive in runs

 

[chasfh]

13 hours ago, Motor City Sonics said:

Wow, East Coast-Bias strikes again. 

Sure, you can throw numbers at me all day, but Cal Raleigh is a freaking CATCHER and put up those numbers.  To me, that should change the dynamic dramatically.     Catchers putting up numbers like that is just insane.  

All depends on whether you're voting for Most Valuable or Best Story.

[papalawrence]

11 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

The writers still like the RBI.  It shows that he is clutch.  

I still like the rbi stat. Hank Greenberg's career stats are a thing of beauty. Like looking at art for me. Same with Gehrig, Ruth, Williams, DiMaggio etc, but they played for evil teams

Edited 21 hours ago by papalawrence

[Tiger337]

Judge deserved it.  You could make a case that the daily grind of catching and the potential contributions that catchers make to pitcher management are not captured by numbers, but you can't claim any bias.  The numbers that Judge put up are insane at ANY position.  

[Tiger337]

5 minutes ago, papalawrence said:

I still like the rbi stat. Hank Greenberg's career stats are a thing of beauty. Like looking at art for me. Same with Gehrig, Ruth, Williams, DiMaggio etc, but they played for evil teams

RBI are certainly aesthetically pleasing historically.  They just don't measure what people think they do.  They measure opportunity more than the ability to take advantage of opportunity.  

Edited 20 hours ago by Tiger337

[papalawrence]

Just now, Tiger337 said:

RBI are certainly aesthetic historically.  They just don't measure what people think they do.  They measure opportunity more than the ability to take advantage of opportunity.  

I do understand that. The 8 year old in me still loves the look on the card. Had baseball-reference been around when I was a kid I would have failed every class except gym and math. Remember the Sunday sports page that showed all stats? Heaven. That was heaven.

[Tiger337]

Just now, papalawrence said:

I do understand that. The 8 year old in me still loves the look on the card. Had baseball-reference been around when I was a kid I would have failed every class except gym and math. Remember the Sunday sports page that showed all stats? Heaven. That was heaven.

I still look at RBI just for fun too. 

Pitcher wins are no longer fun or beautiful though.  That is a pretty much meaningless stat given the way the game is played today.  

[oblong]

4 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

I still look at RBI just for fun too. 

Pitcher wins are no longer fun or beautiful though.  That is a pretty much meaningless stat given the way the game is played today.  

Yep.  Specifically with regards to SP and the 5 innings thing. 

[papalawrence]

56 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

I still look at RBI just for fun too. 

Pitcher wins are no longer fun or beautiful though.  That is a pretty much meaningless stat given the way the game is played today.  

Agree. Skenes and Skubal combined for 23 wins this year. Both would likely have been robbed of the cy 15 years ago

[Motor City Sonics]

1 hour ago, oblong said:

Yep.  Specifically with regards to SP and the 5 innings thing. 

I think they finally got that when Felix Hernandez won it at 13-12.  He was the best pitcher, with the hardest luck.

[papalawrence]

Had a nightmare last night, woke up depressed. In it I was watching a Harris and Hinch presser touting the Tigers big get this offseason, Michael Lorenzen.

[Tenacious D]

31 minutes ago, papalawrence said:

Had a nightmare last night, woke up depressed. In it I was watching a Harris and Hinch presser touting the Tigers big get this offseason, Michael Lorenzen.

I think we’ll be pleasantly surprised, though I think it will be on the pitching side. If Torres signs, I don’t see any other significant infield additions with McGonigle, Lee and Anderson lurking. Maybe Jung, too, if he can bounce back next season in Toledo.  Maybe we’ll see a CF or RF upgrade, with Carp moving to DH.

[Tiger337]

1 hour ago, papalawrence said:

Had a nightmare last night, woke up depressed. In it I was watching a Harris and Hinch presser touting the Tigers big get this offseason, Michael Lorenzen.

I had a dream last night that Amos Otis was a pedophile who gambled on baseball games.  I think it's a combination of me considering Otis for my historical sim team, the gambling news in baseball and the Epstein stuff.  

[chasfh]

45 minutes ago, Tenacious D said:

I think we’ll be pleasantly surprised, though I think it will be on the pitching side. If Torres signs, I don’t see any other significant infield additions with McGonigle, Lee and Anderson lurking. Maybe Jung, too, if he can bounce back next season in Toledo.  Maybe we’ll see a CF or RF upgrade, with Carp moving to DH.

I'd be surprised if we ended up with a permanent DH, even from one side of the plate.

[Tenacious D]

1 hour ago, chasfh said:

I'd be surprised if we ended up with a permanent DH, even from one side of the plate.

Not suggesting that, just that he would be part of a platoon there if they got another OF without moving him.

[IdahoBert]

9 hours ago, papalawrence said:

I do understand that. The 8 year old in me still loves the look on the card. Had baseball-reference been around when I was a kid I would have failed every class except gym and math. Remember the Sunday sports page that showed all stats? Heaven. That was heaven.

I remember perusing the Sporting News Baseball Register when I was a kid and seeing that D*ck Stewart had hit 66 home runs for the Lincoln Chiefs in the Western League in 1956 and I was absolutely dazzled by that. 

[papalawrence]

2 hours ago, IdahoBert said:

I remember perusing the Sporting News Baseball Register when I was a kid and seeing that D*ck Stewart had hit 66 home runs for the Lincoln Chiefs in the Western League in 1956 and I was absolutely dazzled by that. 

That's awesome!

[Tiger337]

2 hours ago, IdahoBert said:

I remember perusing the Sporting News Baseball Register when I was a kid and seeing that D*ck Stewart had hit 66 home runs for the Lincoln Chiefs in the Western League in 1956 and I was absolutely dazzled by that. 

https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=stuart004ric